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#1984266 - 11/08/12 05:02 PM Question: Fingerings for single handed scales in octaves
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Is it always the classical tradition (a la Hanon) to use the 4th finger when on a black keys and the 5th finger when on a white keys when practicing octaves with the right hand through all 12 major scales?

Same things also for triad arpeggios with right handed octaves (4/black, 5/white)?

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#1987267 - 11/15/12 10:13 PM Question: Fingerings for single handed scales in octaves [Re: Jazz+]
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I am curious to read the answer(s) too, so let's not let this slip off the radar screen.

John? Peter? Gary? AZN?
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#1987928 - 11/17/12 06:58 PM Re: Question: Fingerings for single handed scales in octaves [Re: LoPresti]
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Depends on the student I think.

I've played (and taught) octave passages using only 1/5 and also using 1/4 and even 1/3 (I've got reasonably big hands). However I find that I tire more easily when I use 4 (or 3), so I generally stick to 1/5 for all octave passages now.

The proponents of the Taubman approach would advise against anything but 1/5 for octaves as other fingerings force your wrist to turn outwards in an unnatural position. I think that's why I was tiring and getting sore when doing extended octave passages.
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#1987978 - 11/17/12 10:20 PM Re: Question: Fingerings for single handed scales in octaves [Re: Jazz+]
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I think the key is to relax the hand in between each octave. It's the constant stretching that adds tension (but I do like the variety of 1-4 and 1-3 to the 1-5).
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#1988315 - 11/18/12 09:50 PM Re: Question: Fingerings for single handed scales in octaves [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
I think the key is to relax the hand in between each octave. It's the constant stretching that adds tension (but I do like the variety of 1-4 and 1-3 to the 1-5).


Yes. Relaxing the hand is very important.
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