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#1984097 - 11/08/12 10:20 AM Re: Ordering of the Chopin Etude and Preludes [Re: pianoloverus]
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On the question of piano strings ... did you chaps know that the Grand Johanna on the Hindenburg airship had aluminium strings ... to make it lighter!! (disaster May 6, 1937)

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#1984400 - 11/08/12 10:32 PM Re: Ordering of the Chopin Etude and Preludes [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
A piano tuner told me, and this was the explanation: "It is possible that the G# will be the first to get sluggish when humid as the flange is probably tighter than average."....

Are you sure he/she was talking generally, rather than specifically about your piano? Like, maybe there was something about that particular flange (which would be my guess)....
It certainly sounds to me as though the tuner were referring to the particular piano in question, rather than to all pianos in general....

Off the subject, but......I can't help it.... grin
This is a great example of where I think the rule about using the subjunctive in such a situation is a poor idea -- and I don't do it. Good thing I'm not still in school, because I might flunk. ha

I think that actually most people who know about the subjunctive and generally use it properly violate the rule in such a context, but (as far as I know) it is nevertheless considered wrong.

What do I mean by "such a context"?
A context where the stated situation is very possibly actual. I reserve the subjunctive for where it's just being imagined, or at most highly unlikely. I think the subjunctive sounds strange when the stated situation is true or very possibly true, but as far as I know, the rule doesn't care.

The rule needs to be changed.
Pass it on. grin

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#1984402 - 11/08/12 10:42 PM Re: Ordering of the Chopin Etude and Preludes [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
A piano tuner told me, and this was the explanation: "It is possible that the G# will be the first to get sluggish when humid as the flange is probably tighter than average."....

Are you sure he/she was talking generally, rather than specifically about your piano? Like, maybe there was something about that particular flange (which would be my guess).

BTW I'm talking about this without having the slightest idea what a flange is....and I don't mean that you have to tell me. smile


Yes, it is possible that he was making an assumption about my piano (he didn't have it in front of him), but I will ask him when I have the chance. smile At any rate the tuner is coming in January, so we will have a look at that flange. laugh
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#1984455 - 11/09/12 02:17 AM Re: Ordering of the Chopin Etude and Preludes [Re: btb]
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Originally Posted By: btb
On the question of piano strings ... did you chaps know that the Grand Johanna on the Hindenburg airship had aluminium strings ... to make it lighter!! (disaster May 6, 1937)

Now you know it all.


No, I don't. What was the rest of it made of?
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#1984479 - 11/09/12 04:06 AM Re: Ordering of the Chopin Etude and Preludes [Re: pianoloverus]
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Hi Frycek,
Did a bit of reading up on the Hindenburg airship ...
and the use of aluminium strings to the piano.

No ... they didn't use balsawood for the rest of the piano!! ... to make it lighter.

Apparently the piano with aluminium strings did not
accompany the journey when the airship caught fire.
So presumably the old piano was left in the Frankfurt storeroom.

regards, btb

Dr. Rudolf Blüthner-Haessler was head of the Julius Blüthner Piano Company, which created the lightweight duralumin piano carried on Hindenburg during the 1936 season.

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#1984926 - 11/10/12 06:16 AM Re: Ordering of the Chopin Etude and Preludes [Re: pianoloverus]
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Thanks!
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#1985006 - 11/10/12 10:59 AM Re: Ordering of the Chopin Etude and Preludes [Re: pianoloverus]
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I doubt that the piano had aluminum strings. That would be a tremendous design problem, as well as an acoustical one The bass strings may have been wrapped with aluminum, but the reason for wrapping strings is to add weight to them, anyway.
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