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#1986723 - 11/14/12 05:53 PM pieces that need more exposure
dolce sfogato Offline
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Just read the post about composers that are unjustfiably ignored, there are composers, not ness.on that list, whose oeuvre has some hidden treasures, overlooked in the modernday concert-repertoire, or there are some masterpieces, hailed by the critics, but never/hardly performed. My little beginning of a suggestion;

Poulenc: Les soirées de Nazelles
Reger: Intermezzi op.45/Telemann-variations
Rachmaninoff: 1st sonata,lol, Chopinvariations
Chopin: op.46
Beethoven: Polonaise/Fantasie
Weber: sonatas, esp.nr.2
Liszt: Scherzo und Marsch
Reubke: sonata/scherzo
Lyapunov: sonata/études
Dale: sonata
Chabrier: pièces pittoresques/bourée fantastique
Balakirev: sonata
Grieg: ballade
Fauré: ballade
etc.
call me oldfashioned, oh, rather don't.
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#1986727 - 11/14/12 06:08 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Brahms:Variations on an Original Theme in D major, Op.21(?)
Albeniz:Iberia(performed but not emough IMO considering how great it is)
Chopin: Rondo a la Mazur Op.5
Bach-Busoni:St.Anne Prelude and Fugue
Haydn:Capriccio in G major
De Falla:Fantasia Baetica



Edited by pianoloverus (11/14/12 06:16 PM)

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#1986737 - 11/14/12 06:43 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Anything by Faure.

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#1986740 - 11/14/12 06:54 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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#1986766 - 11/14/12 07:49 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: tomasino]
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Mendelssohn Bb Sonata
Chopin Cm Polonaise
Rubke Scherzo
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#1986773 - 11/14/12 07:55 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Some of the pieces mentioned are not "overlooked" but are just too damn hard to play.

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#1986825 - 11/14/12 09:59 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Pierne Concerto in C minor
Scriabin's Concerto in F# minor
Mendelssohn's Scottish Fantasy
Mendelssohn's Preludes and Fugues
All of Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues
Liszt Ballade Ukraine

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#1986840 - 11/14/12 10:16 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus

Albeniz:Iberia(performed but not emough IMO considering how great it is)
De Falla:Fantasia Baetica



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Great choices. Let me add to that Albeniz's fantastic 4th Piano Sonata and his Azulejos (which was completed by Granados I believe).

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#1986882 - 11/14/12 10:46 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: celegorma]
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Originally Posted By: celegorma
Some of the pieces mentioned are not "overlooked" but are just too damn hard to play.


What if 10% of aspiring pianists put the same time and effort, or even half of it, into Iberia that they were going to put into Chopin Polonaises or Liszt Etudes? How much richer would we all be for it?

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#1986890 - 11/14/12 11:09 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
pianojosh23 Offline
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Liszt.

Especially:

Pensée des morts.
Variations on a theme from Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen.
Mephisto Waltzes 2 and 3.
Trois Odes Funèbres.
The Dante Symphony.
Der nächtliche Zug.
The lieder in general!
Christus.
Missa solennis zur Einweihung der Basilika in Gran.

^I'd say all of these are among Liszt's finest works.

Also:

Apparitions.
Aux cyprès de la Villa d'Este I and II: Thrénodie.
Andante lagrimoso.
Grosses Konzertsolo.
Weihnachtsbaumin.
The 'other' Lied self-transcriptions (not the third Liebestraume or the Petrarch Sonnets, but the 'other' Liebestraume (especially 1) and works like Am Rhein, im schönen Strome, Der du von dem Himmel bist, Die Zelle in Nonnenwerth, and the revised version of Die Lorelei).
The tone poems not named Les Preludes.
Die Glocken des Strassburger Münsters.
Psalm 13.
Via Crucis.

Many more. I think that Liszt's (annoyingly all-over-the-place) output is absolutely full of hidden treasures that are as good as most of the pieces that are more commonly known.

ALSO:

Chopin Op. 46.


Edited by pianojosh23 (11/14/12 11:58 PM)

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#1986937 - 11/15/12 02:21 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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R. Strauss sonata:








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#1986961 - 11/15/12 05:23 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
JoelW Offline
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#1986987 - 11/15/12 08:13 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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There are a lot of spanish works I would like to hear more often. I especially love the Goyescas by Granados.
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#1987021 - 11/15/12 10:23 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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My number one choice for this category would be the Brahms variations on an original theme, Op. 21 no. 1, which another poster also mentioned. I think it's absolutely wonderful; for me, it's as good as the Haendel variations, but sadly no one plays it.

Also, Brahms' Op. 1 and 2 sonatas, they get overlooked due to phenomenal Op. 5.

A work that I've recently 'discovered' that certainly fits this category is Shostakovich's piano sonata no. 2.

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#1987166 - 11/15/12 04:57 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Khachaturian: Concert Rhapsody for Piano and Orchestra
Debussy:Fantasy for Piano and Orchestra
Medtner: Piano Concertos
Rachmaninnoff: Moment Musical (i think its op.16)
Mozart Sonata in F (the one no one plays!!!)


Edited by Roland_Guy (11/15/12 05:00 PM)
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#1987173 - 11/15/12 05:05 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: Roland_Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Roland_Guy

Mozart Sonata in F (the one no one plays!!!)


K533/494? I'm working on that one right now -- it's a fantastic piece. The 1st movement is so playful and clever.

I also agree about the Debussy fantasy.

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#1987390 - 11/16/12 09:50 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Rachmaninoff - Corelli Variations
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#1987606 - 11/16/12 08:18 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Hi all,

I'd like to hear more people interpret the 'alternate' version of Scriabin's Etude Op. 8, No. 12 in D# minor:


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#1987721 - 11/17/12 07:40 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Besides the Grieg ballade, Rachmaninoff 1st sonata, Chopin op. 46 and Shostakovich 2nd sonata that already got mentioned:

Chopin's Rondo a lá Krakowiac op. 14. IMO the orchestration in it is better than in than in the concertos.

Sergei Bortkiewicz's 3rd piano concerto. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S845YzYmvjk&feature=relmfu

Sibelius's piano music (especially op. 24).

Rachmaninoff's 1st and 4th piano concertos.

And there's lot's of good contemporary music that hasn't made it's way to standard repertoire (yet).
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#1987902 - 11/17/12 05:34 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: Verbum mirabilis]
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Originally Posted By: Verbum mirabilis


Rachmaninoff's 1st and 4th piano concertos.


the 1st admittedly hasn't grown on me yet, but yes the 4th is definitely underrated! I particularly enjoy Michelangeli's recording.

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#1987908 - 11/17/12 05:43 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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#1987913 - 11/17/12 06:21 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Clair De Lune. laugh

But really, how about Respighi's preludes on a Gregorian theme? I'm in love with them, there are only a couple recordings I know of.
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#1987918 - 11/17/12 06:31 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Schubert 959 could use a little more exposure. I feel it's an even greater sonata than 960.

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#1987933 - 11/17/12 07:12 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: tomasino]
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Originally Posted By: tomasino
Schubert 959 could use a little more exposure. I feel it's an even greater sonata than 960.

But aside from the bottomless pit of freight and a certain sense of calculated terror in the slow movement -something that might be almost too scary -why else would you rate this sonata over the D960?

I have heard it in concert many times, I have read through it even more often, but with due respect, none of the other movements match the D960.
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#1987936 - 11/17/12 07:19 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: tomasino]
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Originally Posted By: tomasino
Schubert 959 could use a little more exposure. I feel it's an even greater sonata than 960.

Tomasino


But am I remembering right that you didn't care for the treatment of the last movement's theme as much as its earlier A-minor sonata setting? (I could just look this up using pianoworld search, but it's more fun not to.)

-J
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#1987937 - 11/17/12 07:23 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Bizet's Variations Chromatiques, William Byrd, the great and mighty Purcell (just ask GMH), Sessions (his music is ignored for reasons I simply can't comprehend, it's marvelous)

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#1987948 - 11/17/12 07:54 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: beet31425]
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beet31425:

OT, have you ever seen the film 'Velvet Goldmine'? The Andante from Mahler 6 was used.

Yeah, lots of supreme scenery in the film, Jonathan Rhys Meyers was absolutely breathtaking in his sensual beauty, but it was the soundtrack which really caught my ear.

Has there ever been a movement which is so desolate and lonely? Those distant cowbells, that sense of yearning and abandonment, truly magnificently beautiful, if a bit uncomfortable.
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#1987951 - 11/17/12 08:02 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: Ian_G]
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Originally Posted By: Ian_G
William Byrd

What are you talking about, Ian?

William Byrd -both his Anglican and RC works- are CONSTANTLY sung in British cathedrals, there has never been any doubt re his status. Check out a recent recording from Durham Cathedral (Priory 801) of his choral works. Also, the weekly broadcast of Evensong via BBC frequently features works of Byrd.

Just wish I liked his instrumental works better, they are so dreary. blush
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#1987976 - 11/17/12 09:58 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Alright, Jason! I was referring to his keyboard works. I guess I'm the dreary type. smile

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#1988022 - 11/18/12 02:49 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: Ian_G]
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Alright, Jason! I was referring to his keyboard works. I guess I'm the dreary type. smile

Not so much the keyboard works, I was thinking of his consort songs with viol accompaniment. But perhaps you just had to be there at the time.
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