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#1987283 - 11/15/12 11:23 PM BWV 816 Bourrée I note check
jmcintyre Offline
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I've been working on Bach's French Suite #5, and until lately have avoided listening to recordings. Yesterday I listened to a few on YouTube, including one by András Schiff, and noted a discrepancy between what I heard and what's in my score.

I've been using Bach-Gesellschaft, which has this in measure 15:

The other edition available on IMSLP is Czerny, which has the passage as I'm hearing it on recordings:

(Note: I've cropped off the beginning of the previous measure. Just to clarify, in both editions the last note in the bass in that measure 14 is D#.)

Can anyone shed light on this discrepancy? Is Bach-Gesellschaft generally considered to be incorrect here, or is this a case where there the autograph is unclear and the choice is left to the pianist?

I'd rather be practicing wink
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Now: Brahms Op. 118, Bach French Suite #5

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#1987294 - 11/16/12 01:19 AM Re: BWV 816 Bourrée I note check [Re: jmcintyre]
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According to the Bischoff edition, there are different sources that give the alternate readings. The first edition and another source has the sharp, while the Anna Magdalena Bach notebook and a couple of others do not.
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#1987351 - 11/16/12 07:25 AM Re: BWV 816 Bourrée I note check [Re: jmcintyre]
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The Henle edition has the 2nd example, with this annotation clarification in the back

'Suite 5: G major
Bourree: Bars 15 and 30 are found in the final version stemming from Gerber.'

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#1987358 - 11/16/12 08:08 AM Re: BWV 816 Bourrée I note check [Re: jmcintyre]
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Thank you both!
I'd rather be practicing wink
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Now: Brahms Op. 118, Bach French Suite #5

#1987429 - 11/16/12 11:34 AM Re: BWV 816 Bourrée I note check [Re: jmcintyre]
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And IMO the chromatic descending line is more interesting smile

#1987868 - 11/17/12 03:55 PM Re: BWV 816 Bourrée I note check [Re: jmcintyre]
AnneJ Offline
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Baerenreiter (NBA) shows G natural (first exmaple) in the A version (earlier Altnickol tradition) and G# (second example) in the B version ("younger" embellished version).


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