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Like I said in the other thread, I might choose another one if we have more time (like late Marchish/Aprilish.) February is bad for me to have new things ready.
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We can choose more than one?
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That I don't know, Lady Chen. I meant to say I would give up 19-6 in favor of something scary and unknown to me if the deadline was a month or so after the middle of February
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We can choose more than one? will get back to you on that lol
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consider the deadline extended AimeeO xxx
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This is different from the "usual" abf recitals, for a few reasons, one of them being in the "regular" abf recitals folk choose anything they want to play, this is very different, it is themed ...
BUT, that is a shared workload and everyone helps each other be it through Pms on technical advice or just support through the thread.
What do we achieve? Many things not least is a greater knowledge of the scores, through shared study and help, but also a deeper understanding of where the particular composer is "coming from" furthering our understanding and knowledge of that composer.
Question: Is this the thread for this dialogue? I understand we are still early on in the sign up, but I'm already working on my piece and already have questions. Plus, I am interested in the challenges that other participants may be having and of better understanding of their pieces as well. What you said, Rossy about understanding more about the composer and these compositions (not just the one of immediate focus) is appealing to me in progressing my understanding and learning overall. Who knows, may even decide to learn others as well through a better appreciation of same. So, are you ready for my questions, and is this the place you want them? They are likely pretty lame, but as above, also interested about insight and challenges that may arise, with other participants and compositions in this thread.
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Dire tonic - added, thnx Greener, I'd fire away Has everyone got the complete book?
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Question: Is this the thread for this dialogue?
I would say yes, put the questions here. I don't read the "RST serious" thread often (or at all...). Sam
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Definitely you can discuss the piece your working on here. If you look at our other Themed Recital threads, we use them for encouragement and questions.
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Ok, I need help already lol..... Trills, I've never played 'em, and I've picked Op.30 No.6 with Trills in it. (why do I do this lol) In the score, it just shows ONE note with the trill line above it. Do I use the note below or above? A full note below/above or half? Your help would be much appreciated.
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In MM32-34 the trill is D and C. It's a full tone above.
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Ok, I need help already lol..... Trills, I've never played 'em, and I've picked Op.30 No.6 with Trills in it. (why do I do this lol) In the score, it just shows ONE note with the trill line above it. Do I us the note below or above? A full note below/above or half? Your help would be much appreciated. Trills were just changing around the time Mendellsohn was composing from always starting on the note above the main note to starting on the main note; but they are always with the note and the one above in the given scale unless indicated with an accidental. Listen to some recordings and see what you like. Both are acceptable.
- Debussy - Le Petit Nègre, L. 114
- Haydn - Sonata in Gm, Hob. XVI/44
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In MM32-34 the trill is D and C. It's a full tone above.
Barenboim plays a semitone up for both trills.... (op 30 - 6, first trill @ 1.12)
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Oops! Actually it's three sharps, so it would be D, C sharp.
Sorry.
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Op 102 No. 6
Couple of questions about the score;
In several places I see a '.' below or above the eighth notes. Does this mean to play staccato? That is what I thought. But, when I listen to a recording, it only sounds staccato in one instance and not others. So, not sure what is up with that.
Also, just so I am straight on these ...
Funky f = Forte
Funky p = Piano
mF = moderate forte ?
sF = ???
dim., dimin. = Diminuendo
cresc. = Crescendo
That's all for now. Of course I can google all of this, but would rather ask here and have all answers in repository.
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F = Forte, loud P = piano, soft mF = mezzo forte, medium sF = sforzando, sudden and sharp loud for that chord/note
dim and cresc. you have.
The staccato dots under a slur in M2 are a soft rather sharp staccato.
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Op 102 No. 6
Couple of questions about the score;
In several places I see a '.' below or above the eighth notes. Does this mean to play staccato? That is what I thought. But, when I listen to a recording, it only sounds staccato in one instance and not others. So, not sure what is up with that.
Also, just so I am straight on these ...
Funky f = Forte
Funky p = Piano
mF = moderate forte ?
sF = ???
dim., dimin. = Diminuendo
cresc. = Crescendo
That's all for now. Of course I can google all of this, but would rather ask here and have all answers in repository.
It's all as you've listed. mf is mezzo forte but means moderate, as you have it, between p and f. sf = sforzando = accented. Yes, the dots above and below indicate stacatto but, depending on the piece, there's sometimes license to do your own thing. Where possible, check out the various maestros to see how they compare, sometimes there'll be wide variation.
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How do you figure out the difference between a soft and a sharp stacatto?
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thanks.
So, if staccato dots are under a slur it always means soft rather than sharp staccato?
I have plenty of staccato to deal with in this piece, so just want to make sure I fully understand and know how to treat them.
M6, M7, M10, M12-14, M16, M19-24, M26-27, M29-31
Also, now that you mention it, what is the purpose of a slur notation? Should I be able to hear a difference of the same eighth notes with slur vs. without? Could this help me with with pedal indications? I doubt it, since the slurs are often independent in bass and treble clef.
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