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#1988023 - 11/18/12 02:57 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: argerichfan]
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As we said in the 'Most neglected' great piano composer on Pianist Corner? thread, Heitor Villa-Lobos (one of my favorite composers) needs more exposure. His piano music is almost never played in concert.

Cristina Ortiz performs it very well. Here is a excerpt :

Cristina Ortiz plays Villa-Lobos' Poema Singelo

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#1988178 - 11/18/12 01:36 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Anything by Stravinsky or Messiaen.
Hindemith Suite 1922 - and no, I don't care if Hindemith didn't like it.

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#1988236 - 11/18/12 04:57 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: beet31425]
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Originally Posted By: beet31425
Originally Posted By: tomasino
Schubert 959 could use a little more exposure. I feel it's an even greater sonata than 960.

Tomasino


But am I remembering right that you didn't care for the treatment of the last movement's theme as much as its earlier A-minor sonata setting? (I could just look this up using pianoworld search, but it's more fun not to.)

-J


Hello Beet and Argerichfan,

Ya got me. The yokes on me, and it’s all over my egg besplattered face. After reading your posts, I went off to face the various contradictions you point out.

On one level, there's no accounting for taste, and I could just leave it there. But in thinking it over, I can account for for my taste. When it comes to great music, many of us like best what we know best. I know that's true for me. And of the two sonatas, I know 959 best, in that I actually learned it a few years ago, and played it at as high a level as I’ve ever played anything. I only know 960 in the sense that I've heard it in concerts and recordings and have played through it a few times, and I know it by reputation. For me, then, given a side by side listening of the two, I’m quite sure I’d still prefer 959--and own up that I should not have written in a way that might have implied it is better in absolute terms--if that is, indeed, how I wrote.

That being said, the egg is off--but I still find fault with the outer movements of 959, and more especially, the first movement, which always sounds a little too Beethovenesque to me, a little forced in an LVB direction, and doesn’t seem as authentically Schubert as the often less structured, more lyrical, and more introspective Schubert I know from song. The other A major sonata in question--I think it's 644--which I also learned awhile ago, and could play, for me, at a fairly high level, seems more truly Schubert to me.

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#1988378 - 11/19/12 04:06 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Prokofiev Concerto #4
Shostakovich prelude & fugues
Mendelssohn prelude & fugues
Shostakovich concertino (2 pianos)
Liszt b minor sonata
Bartok - everything
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#1988520 - 11/19/12 12:27 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: asthecrowflies]
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Originally Posted By: asthecrowflies

Liszt b minor sonata


???

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#1988660 - 11/19/12 07:24 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: fledgehog]
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Originally Posted By: fledgehog
Originally Posted By: asthecrowflies

Liszt b minor sonata


???


sorry, just being facetious
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#1988785 - 11/20/12 02:33 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: asthecrowflies]
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Originally Posted By: asthecrowflies
Originally Posted By: fledgehog
Originally Posted By: asthecrowflies

Liszt b minor sonata


???


sorry, just being facetious


figured, but the rest of them were all good suggestions, so I wasn't entirely sure. I remember being disappointed when I first discovered the Liszt sonata, and then it turned out to be one of the most popular pieces ever!

The Mendelssohn preludes and fugues are particularly interesting - the only one on your list I hadn't heard of. Listened to all of them on youtube earlier. Very tasteful!

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#1988786 - 11/20/12 02:33 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Felicien David's Les Brises d'Orient. I have a recording of these fantastic piano miniatures by Daniel Blumenthal. The ghosts of Chopin and Beethoven resonate throughout them. Unjustly neglected, indeed.
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#1988833 - 11/20/12 05:53 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: JessicaB]
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Originally Posted By: JessicaB

Hindemith Suite 1922 - and no, I don't care if Hindemith didn't like it.


Everything by Hindemith, in fact. I'm having a great time making my way through his Ludus Tonalis.

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#1989354 - 11/21/12 11:29 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: fledgehog]
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Originally Posted By: fledgehog

figured, but the rest of them were all good suggestions, so I wasn't entirely sure. I remember being disappointed when I first discovered the Liszt sonata, and then it turned out to be one of the most popular pieces ever!

The Mendelssohn preludes and fugues are particularly interesting - the only one on your list I hadn't heard of. Listened to all of them on youtube earlier. Very tasteful!


If you're not familiar with the Prokofiev 4, give it a good listen... the 2nd movement is stunning. Hardly anyone plays it, they're either busy with the Ravel left Hand concerto or the Prok 3.
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#1989369 - 11/21/12 11:55 AM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Couperin anything (note, there are 2 composers with this name!). I just posted the first Couperin in the ABF recitals!
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#1989425 - 11/21/12 01:57 PM Re: pieces that need more exposure [Re: dolce sfogato]
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There are more than two composers named Couperin. They were sort of like the Bach family of France.
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