Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
112 registered (AnneJ, ando, augustm, accordeur, ascc, 35 invisible), 1381 Guests and 7 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1990550 - 11/25/12 01:33 AM Please advise: Bet Yahama GB1K, Kawai K5 and Kawai GM12
hkginger Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/15/11
Posts: 44
Hi, we are looking to buy a NEW professional upright piano or a baby grand piano for 6 year old daughter who is playing at Level/Grade 5. Our budget is really around 9,000. We want to focus on a couple of popular and easily accessible brands like Yahama and Kawai, because my daughter has played on Yahama grand and Kawai upright at piano competitions. Today, I brought my daughter to try out a brand new Ebony Yamaha GB1K baby grand at a dealer in NJ, she likes the sound and the touch. It is priced at $9,990 with some room of negotiation. I am a bit disappointed by absence of underfelted hammer on this GB1K (I understand it is a entry level grand) although we like the sound of it ! My daughter didn't like the touch of U1 and U3. I was told that Yahama GB1K is assembled in Indonesia and parts are from Japan.
Now here comes the Kawai K-5 upright and GM12K, I want to know if they are better made than Yahama GB1K? Is the millennium III Action really a plus ? Are these they made from Japan factory? I know my daughter still have to try both to see if she like the touch and sound of these two Kawai. But are these two models better made than Yahama GB1K? Can anyone give me a bit of the comparison of these three pianos based on "inside" of the piano? Any opinions and advice you have will be greatly appreciated. I know nothing of pianos, just try to read as much as I can:((


(ad 800) Pearl River
Pearl River the world's best selling piano
#1990573 - 11/25/12 03:59 AM Re: Please advise: Bet Yahama GB1K, Kawai K5 and Kawai GM12 [Re: hkginger]
4evrBeginR Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/27/09
Posts: 1607
Loc: California
No 6-year-old needs a grand piano, not even one playing at level 5. Your daughter may need a grand piano in 5 or 6 years, but if she did, a GB1K or GM12 would certainly not be good enough. So those pianos are unnecessary now and inadequate later. Get an upright, and save your money for a much better piano down the road. Pianos are easy to buy and difficult to sell. You don't want to be stuck with a small grand piano that you end up losing thousands in a few years when you need to upgrade.

Another angle is to ask yourself if your daughter quits, would you rather have a small grand piano or an upright that only serves as decoration in the house, and is the small grand worth several thousands more for that purpose. If she doesn't quit, you and she would invariably want something better.

#1990625 - 11/25/12 08:49 AM Re: Please advise: Bet Yahama GB1K, Kawai K5 and Kawai GM12 [Re: 4evrBeginR]
hkginger Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/15/11
Posts: 44
Thank you for your advice smirk

#1990747 - 11/25/12 03:46 PM Re: Please advise: Bet Yahama GB1K, Kawai K5 and Kawai GM12 [Re: hkginger]
RX2Bunny Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/22/12
Posts: 119
Loc: Chicago
Hi hkginger - I have a K5 myself and absolutely love it. I went through the debate on upright vs. baby grand vs. small grand. I quickly ruled out baby grand because I have read from many people (piano technicians) that it's just a nice piece of furniture. they called it "picture frame piano" (i.e. for display). despite what they said, I played them myself and I didn't like the sound and action of it. I thought the sound is thin and doesn't have the volume I wanted.

I agreed with 4evrBeginR's point. Go with a nice and professional upright and get a grand when she's ready for it. I tried U1 and it's not for me. I was going for K3 but after i tried K5, I just fell in love with the sound and the volume of it. it's so big and powerful. the touch and action were excellent to me. i felt like my fingers were able to fly on the keyboard. I am usually the kind of shopper that i like to sleep on the decision if it's a big purchase. however, i pulled the trigger on the same evening I put my hands on my K5.

I absolutely love my piano but there's one thing that does bother me - the piano "desk". I realize sometimes my fingers would jsut hit it when i try to play bigger sound or faster action. There'd be my only complaint and only excuse to upgrade to a grand down the road smile

Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1990750 - 11/25/12 03:50 PM Re: Please advise: Bet Yahama GB1K, Kawai K5 and Kawai GM12 [Re: hkginger]
RX2Bunny Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/22/12
Posts: 119
Loc: Chicago
one more thing - i heard Kawai uusally has end of year sales. so make sure you're getting (or at least try to) a good price on the Kawai!

If you have any further questions, feel free to PM me too.

#1990766 - 11/25/12 04:55 PM Re: Please advise: Bet Yahama GB1K, Kawai K5 and Kawai GM12 [Re: hkginger]
J_D Offline
Full Member

Registered: 03/10/10
Posts: 305
Loc: Texas, USA
I evaluated the GB1K and didn't like it. I would either go with a better grand or a better built/sounding upright.
Hailun 178

#1990828 - 11/25/12 09:23 PM Re: Please advise: Bet Yahama GB1K, Kawai K5 and Kawai GM12 [Re: J_D]
hkginger Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/15/11
Posts: 44
Thank you RileyBunny and J_D. I really appreciate your advice. I will bring my daughter to try out Kawai K5 and other Kawai models this Saturday.

Edited by hkginger (11/25/12 09:23 PM)


Moderator:  Ken Knapp, Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Why It's Impossible to Tune a Piano!
aka, why you should be nice to your tuner.
Posting Pictures on the Forums
Forums Rules & Help
on Piano World

Piano Classified Ads
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.

Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
Hammond A100 for Sale!
(Think B3)
Hammond A100 for sale!
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad 125)
Sweetwater $55,000 Giveaway
Sweetwater $55,000 Mic Locker Giveaway
New Topics - Multiple Forums
New Roland HP/LX Series Firmware
by Jay Roland
Today at 03:50 PM
Belmont U. Free Sight Reading Material
by scgrant
Today at 12:29 PM
I'm Confessing That I Love You
by T E Bekken
Today at 11:25 AM
Jazz Tutorials
by Riddler
Today at 09:42 AM
Kawai CS10-a good choice? And..moving and other questions.
by harpsichorder
Today at 07:45 AM
Forum Stats
83,809 Registered Members
44 Forums
173,031 Topics
2,529,305 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |

copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission