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#1990782 - 11/25/12 06:10 PM Casio Celviano AP-420 vs Yamaha P105
rob7 Offline
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Registered: 11/25/12
Posts: 1
Hi,

I'm trying to figure out whether the Casio Celviano AP-420 or the Yamaha P105 is a better buy brand new. Ideally, I would've wanted something along the lines of a P120, but these are hard to find and probably long gone.

Currently, I can get after tax, the Casio for $904.
For the Yamaha, I am purchasing P105, the FC4 pedal, a stand, and a deluxe seat and a gig bag for the piano, for $889 before cashback for about 6%.

Background:
I'm currently a university student studying away from home looking for a piano to play casually, and using for myself for as long as I can. I have been a piano student since I was 6 years old and finished my ARCT Diploma in 6 years ago. My piano at home is a Yamaha U1 upright. I have played on Petrof grand pianos for competitions, Steinway grand pianos, and Yamaha grands as well. My preferences are towards the Steinway and Yamahas. I know very little about digital pianos, and have been wary about them.

The Yamaha will provide me with portability, and I have been playing Yamaha pianos since I started piano so sound quality and familiarity with the brand would probably lean me towards this. However it is absolutely not on the cheap side, running almost $1000.

I don't know anything about the Casio Celvianos, except the fact that I had played a Casio Privia for my high school choir before about 6 years ago. I didn't quite like the feel and the sound of it, but it was probably because I was used to playing on a real piano. My impression was that it felt cheap and plasticky, and the sound was mediocre at best. Given 6 years, I hope Casio has made significant improvements, especially at this price point. It also doesn't seem as portable as the Yamaha P105.

In comparison:
Option 1
Yamaha P105
$890 => $849.50 after cashback
RockStand Double Braced w/ quick release stand
Bench Keyboard RockStand Deluxe seat
Pedal Sustain Yamaha FC 4
Gig Bag RockBag Premium

Option 2
$904
Casio Celviano AP-420
Bench
Headphones
2GB SD Card


Thanks and I appreciate your help.


Edited by rob7 (11/25/12 06:35 PM)

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#1990827 - 11/25/12 09:15 PM Re: Casio Celviano AP-420 vs Yamaha P105 [Re: rob7]
galaxy4t Offline
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Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Lakewood, CA
You might want to check out the Casio PX-150. The Celviano you are looking at is a console model and is not portable at all. Between the P-105 and the Casio, the Casio will have the heavier action. The P-105 uses Yahama's cheapest action which is on the light side. You should try it and see if you like it. The PX-150 would be the competing model from Casio. I imagine it would be comparable to the Yahama in price if you are overseas. Here in the U.S. it retails for $599 same as the P-105. The Casio has a new sound source, piano sample, and action with textured keys.


Edited by galaxy4t (11/25/12 09:17 PM)

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#1990831 - 11/25/12 09:33 PM Re: Casio Celviano AP-420 vs Yamaha P105 [Re: rob7]
dmd Offline
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Registered: 04/15/09
Posts: 1775
Loc: Pennsylvania
For that kind of money you can also get the Casio PX-350.

I have never been a fan of Casio due to what I consider too short of a decay on the tones.

However, I played the 350 over the weekend and they seem to have overcome that problem and the tone is excellent.

I once had the Casio AP-620 and got rid of it almost immediately because of the decay problem, so I would not recommend any Casio prior to the PX-150, 350, 750, 850 batch.

The only misgivings I had with the 350 was the action of the keybed. It was ok but I have been spoiled with the Kawai I am currently using and there are not many keybeds that can compare to the Kawai.

As always ... be sure to play something yourself before deciding.
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#1991044 - 11/26/12 11:30 AM Re: Casio Celviano AP-420 vs Yamaha P105 [Re: rob7]
PianoWorksATL Offline
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Registered: 09/19/09
Posts: 2682
Loc: Atlanta, GA
They are so different that the only real comparison is price.

Do you actually need portability? If so, the P105 will be good and familiar to you. If not, then the Casio offers a lot more.

The models you mention are not rare or hard to find. Try them and report back your preferences.
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