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#1990352 - 11/24/12 02:40 PM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
[Re: jdhampton924]
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Registered: 11/04/12
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I think it's because this piece only appeals to a select few, personally I really don't like it; the dissonance is too much for me, I think the piece has crossed an invisible line in composition  Although each to his own I guess.
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#1990363 - 11/24/12 03:17 PM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
[Re: jdhampton924]
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Registered: 10/14/10
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I think the only piano music of Ginastera that's played at all regularly (and only by a few, mostly Latin pianists) are his 3 Argentinian Dances. A pity, but then Villa-Lobos, though slightly more well-known, also suffers a similar fate. It's not purely the dissonance though: the idiom - rhythms etc - is unfamiliar and foreign to most pianists brought up on the Austro-German tradition or the Russian tradition.
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#1990367 - 11/24/12 03:25 PM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
[Re: jdhampton924]
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I enjoy this piece!! I have a recording of Barbara Nissman playing it and it's fantastic.
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#1990371 - 11/24/12 03:29 PM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
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I have recordings of almost all of his piano output, and the only things that really grab me enough to make me consider playing them are the 3 Argentine Dances and the 1st Sonata. I agree with Teenagepiano - the 2nd crosses some sort of dissonance palatability line. I want to like it, but I just don't 
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#1990598 - 11/25/12 06:42 AM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
[Re: debrucey]
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Registered: 11/23/07
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I live to cross that line When I run into that line, my only thought is to erase it. I seriously hate having that kind of trivial internal limitation on my musical experiences. Always have hated it, going back to when I was a kid. I figured out fairly early on that when I ran into difficulty listening to something, I had to be the one who changed, since the music wasn't going to. Otherwise, I'd miss out, and I wasn't willing to do that.
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#1990601 - 11/25/12 06:56 AM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
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That's a very good outlook to have.
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#1990677 - 11/25/12 11:50 AM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
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Registered: 01/31/10
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I love the piece, but it is crushingly difficult. I've never played another piece that I was so certain would cause me to be injured if I played it too often.
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#1990715 - 11/25/12 01:44 PM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
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IMHO his best solo piano work (but make sure to use the revised version, whose changes are small but telling). My hands have always found his piano writing to be very congenial.
Those of you who are curious should check out the rest of his solo piano output (including an effective transcription of a Zipoli toccata) both piano concerti, the violin concerto, the harp concerto, the three string quartets (the Second Quartet is the son of Bartok's Fifth Quartet), the Guitar Sonata, and Popol Vuh.
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#1990803 - 11/25/12 07:59 PM
Re: Ginastera's 2nd Piano Sonata
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...Those of you who are curious should check out the rest of his solo piano output (including an effective transcription of a Zipoli toccata) both piano concerti, the violin concerto, the harp concerto, the three string quartets (the Second Quartet is the son of Bartok's Fifth Quartet), the Guitar Sonata, and Popol Vuh. It's almost "which of these does not fit?" but regardless of standing out, the Zipoli transcription is awesome. -Daniel
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