Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyers Guide
Who's Online
81 registered (AprilE, accordeur, Anne'sson, 36251, alans, agraffe, 19 invisible), 1427 Guests and 8 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1991321 - 11/27/12 05:08 AM midi problem
drazh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/31/09
Posts: 69
hi
I want to record to computer with amidi to usb cable
but when I connect the connections and play nothing happened
I have a silent yamaha with midi out
second question
is there any difference in quality between midi cable and recording through speaker jack to microphone of computer
thank you

Top
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1991350 - 11/27/12 06:49 AM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
toddy Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 2769
Loc: Portugal
But midi does not carry notes, or music. It just sends messages about which notes a midi instrument (such as your keyboard or digital piano)should play. You can use midi to computer to save or load midi files of music, for example Or to record sequences of music - but not the actual notes themselves. To record, you need to plug the audio output of your piano into the audio input of your computer, or have extra recording hardware, some of which does now work through USB
_________________________
Roland HP 302 / Samson Graphite 49

Reaper / NI Komplete 9 Ult. / Focusrite Saffire 24
W7, i7 4770, 16GB / Monitors: Yamaha HS7s .

Prudence is a rich ugly old maid courted by Incapacity. He who desires, but acts not, breeds pestilence.
William Blake, The Marriage of Heaven & heck

Top
#1991356 - 11/27/12 07:46 AM Re: midi problem [Re: toddy]
drazh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/31/09
Posts: 69
dear toddy
sorry I dont uderstand. you mean midi out of my piano is not for recording of music from piano to my laptop?

Top
#1991374 - 11/27/12 08:18 AM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
anotherscott Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/20/10
Posts: 3929
Originally Posted By: drazh
dear toddy
sorry I dont uderstand. you mean midi out of my piano is not for recording of music from piano to my laptop?

Correct.

MIDI OUT sends data, i.e. a record of which keys were struck, how hard, for how long. By taking that MIDI data and sending it to a MIDI instrument (whether a keyboard or a software instrument), you can turn that MIDI data into music. If you send the MIDI data to a digital piano (or piano software), it will sound like a piano. If you send it to an organ, it will sound like an organ. MIDI contains no audio, only a set of instructions, to be interpreted elsewhere, with any sound you'd like.

To record audio from your keyboard, you need to use its AUDIO OUT. One reason you might use the MIDI OUT would be if you wanted to use your keyboard to play some other piano sound rather than hearing the piano sound that's built into your Yamaha. And then you could record audio from whatever it is that you send the MIDI data to, by recording THAT piano's audio signal.

Top
(ad) ROLAND

Click Here

#1991561 - 11/27/12 03:33 PM Re: midi problem [Re: anotherscott]
drazh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/31/09
Posts: 69
hi
you mean when I connect midi out to a laptop and open midi software
and play piano. then what happens? something happens in softwre to record or save?or nothing
what is the best midi software?

Top
#1991565 - 11/27/12 03:37 PM Re: midi problem [Re: anotherscott]
Triryche Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 1456
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
You can also record audio and midi simultaneously. I do this in Reaper all the time. You can then send the midi back to your piano and re-record the audio. For example, I might take a midi track, record the audio playback 2 or 3 times (to different tracks) with slightly different piano settings and/or other sounds, and then bland them together. You can also use the recorded MIDI for virtual instruments.

Top
#1991596 - 11/27/12 04:37 PM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
Bosendorff Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/12
Posts: 686
drazh,

There's audio and there's MIDI. A simple analogy is a player piano (those old mechanical pianos that could play pieces automatically using rolls). Audio is the sound that comes out of your piano when you play it. MIDI is like the rolls on a player piano.

When you record MIDI, you're creating a new "roll" for a piece to be played later by some MIDI device or instrument. So MIDI doesn't contain any sound. But when you start your new MIDI file later, a computer or a digital MIDI piano can reproduce/replay your piece. For that, a computer would use its internal sound card, etc.

You can also record both at the same time - the sound of your piano and the MIDI. Then you can listen to your audio performance and also use the "roll" (MIDI file) on a computer, synthesizer, digital piano, etc. Hopes this helps.
_________________________

Dampp Chaser electronic controller

Top
#1991651 - 11/27/12 06:53 PM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
Ojustaboo Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/18/11
Posts: 155
Loc: Deleted
Deleted


Edited by Ojustaboo (07/29/13 06:26 PM)

Top
#1991761 - 11/27/12 11:59 PM Re: midi problem [Re: Ojustaboo]
drazh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/31/09
Posts: 69
thank you for useful information
what midi software do you recommend?

Top
#1991821 - 11/28/12 05:02 AM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
Ojustaboo Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/18/11
Posts: 155
Loc: Deleted
Deleted


Edited by Ojustaboo (07/29/13 06:26 PM)

Top
#1991869 - 11/28/12 08:51 AM Re: midi problem [Re: Ojustaboo]
Wuffski Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/28/12
Posts: 489
Loc: Europe (Northern Spain)
about MIDI software: as I didn´t find a thread quickly informing about this, and information later on might be hard to find hidden within this thread, I just posted the answer to a new thread:

free MIDI software for PC

All the best,
Marco.
_________________________

Sell me an upright piano!
I am searching for a Sauter, or alike in quality and tonal dynamics.
Would need to be a very(!) good offer for a new one,
or more realistic the offer of an used one.

Top
#1991920 - 11/28/12 11:49 AM Re: midi problem [Re: Wuffski]
drazh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/31/09
Posts: 69
thank you
what about other more famous software
not necessarily free

Top
#1991949 - 11/28/12 01:07 PM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
Wuffski Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/28/12
Posts: 489
Loc: Europe (Northern Spain)
Originally Posted By: drazh
thank you
what about other more famous software
not necessarily free

Sorry, I can´t help with this because I didn´t check for commercially sold software: after buying my digital piano this summer, I for the moment run out of money for further hobby purchases.
Hoepfully somebody else can comment on this. I too would be curious at least.
_________________________

Sell me an upright piano!
I am searching for a Sauter, or alike in quality and tonal dynamics.
Would need to be a very(!) good offer for a new one,
or more realistic the offer of an used one.

Top
#1992012 - 11/28/12 03:48 PM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
spanishbuddha Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/08/09
Posts: 2962
Loc: UK
If you want a software piano there are lots of threads on these? For example this one.

Top
#1992150 - 11/28/12 09:00 PM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
Triryche Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 1456
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
What type of keyboard do you have?

Top
#1992271 - 11/29/12 06:02 AM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
drazh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/31/09
Posts: 69
i have yamaha u3 silent with midi out
and clp 220 yamaha midi in and out

Top
#1992340 - 11/29/12 09:50 AM Re: midi problem [Re: drazh]
Triryche Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 1456
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
If you run MIDI into your CLP and record its audio the sound will be better than most free virtual pianos. If you go that route you may want to eventually invest in a USB Audio interface. As for other virtual pianos Pianoteq and Ivory are pretty popular.
I would recommend researching DAW's (Digital Audio Workstation). I currently use Reaper, it is free to try and has a pretty good bang for your buck for the license(~$60 USD).

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


(ad)
Piano Summit 2017!
Piano Summit 2017!
Check out the itineraries!
Click for Details
Piano Summit 2017
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Anyone know which electric/digital piano this is...? :)
by polo1
01/20/17 11:11 PM
Thomann DP-26 - worth a punt for a cheap gig piano?
by Honkytonkman
01/20/17 10:11 PM
Bluthner 238
by Miguel Rey
01/20/17 10:07 PM
Want to upgrade to a baby grand/grand piano
by hello my name is
01/20/17 09:10 PM
ROLI seaboard, any users out there ?
by Alexander Borro
01/20/17 08:07 PM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Forum Stats
86,320 Registered Members
44 Forums
177,902 Topics
2,590,514 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission