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#1994169 - 12/03/12 02:11 PM Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ?
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Is it possible to have sound from internal and external speakers at the same time ? I really like internal speakers vibrations. My CL-36 has no line-in, so I guess it's not possible.
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#1994219 - 12/03/12 04:35 PM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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Well, the way it works on my Kawai CA-63 is ....

I hook my external speakers to my line-out and when I play I hear the sound through my internal speakers and my external speakers at the same time. Simple.

If I do not wish for my internal speakers to sound, I plug in my headphones and that shuts off the internal speakers. I usually do that.




Edited by dmd (12/03/12 04:38 PM)
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#1994229 - 12/03/12 04:57 PM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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No line-out on my DP. Just 2x headphones out. I need to disable that function which turns speakers off when I plug my external speakers. I guess it's not that easy.
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#1994293 - 12/03/12 07:17 PM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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jarosujo, I'm afraid this is not possible on the CL36.

When connecting headphones, the onboard speakers will be disabled automatically.

It may be possible to 'defeat' this mechanism by modifying the internal hardware, but I would obviously not recommend attempting to do so.

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#1994492 - 12/04/12 06:30 AM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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There are times for example when you might want headphones and speaker sound simultaneously. A friend of mine who has passed on was a little hard of hearing. He would listen to the TV with wireless headphones while his guests would listen through speakers.
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#1994524 - 12/04/12 08:28 AM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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An on/off switch, whether it be an analog switch or in the digital parameters should be the norm. DP co.s love to build on the cheap.
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#1994526 - 12/04/12 08:29 AM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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When the headphone jack is plugged in, it causes the contact which enables the internal speakers, to be physically broken.

It is totally possible to modify the headphone jack contacts, by wiring in an external switch to maintain contact with the internal speakers when required, but this may be a modification that you are unable, or unwilling to undertake.
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#1994629 - 12/04/12 12:49 PM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: 36251]
jarosujo Offline
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Originally Posted By: 36251
An on/off switch, whether it be an analog switch or in the digital parameters should be the norm. DP co.s love to build on the cheap.


I guess it's all electronic devices like that and I never understood why. My father has also problems with hearing and he uses headphones for TV. Obviously he can not do that when mother wants to watch as well. I would gladly pay few bucks more for simple switch.
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#1994649 - 12/04/12 01:23 PM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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I have a Kawai ES6. When I have my internal speakers on while I use external speakers as well, I do not like the sound. There is a phazeyness that's disconcerting.

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#1994653 - 12/04/12 01:28 PM Re: Sound from internal and external speakers - possible ? [Re: jarosujo]
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A suggestion done elsewhere to partially meet the OP original requirement, is to mount external speakers connected via the headphone socket, on top of the DP. That way the DP gets the vibrations from the sound.

OT there are plenty of gadgets on the market that allow people to listen to their TV using headphones, whilst still having the TV speakers producing sound as usual. Been there done that with my parents.

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