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#1995723 - 12/07/12 12:51 AM Rapidvoicer.com?
rysowers Offline
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Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 2157
Loc: Olympia, WA
I just noticed this site advertised in the latest PTG Journal. Looks like some quick & dirty voicing tools sold at a premium. The videos did not impress me very much with the so-called improvement.

From the look of the tools, I imagine one of the techniques is to scratch with a dental tool in the string grooves to reduce some of the stridency in the tone. Of course you can buy a dental scraper for a few bucks at Harbor Freight.

He doesn't disclose very much about how this revolutionary system works - I guess you have to pay $150 for the webinar to find out. Hmmmm....

I'd be curious at what others make of this -

http://rapidvoicer.com/

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#1995725 - 12/07/12 12:59 AM Re: Rapidvoicer.com? [Re: rysowers]
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I saw this in the Journal as well. My impression was the same as yours.
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#1995877 - 12/07/12 09:56 AM Re: Rapidvoicer.com? [Re: rysowers]
David, Las Vegas Offline
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Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 134
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Not impressed with the video either. The results are marginal using the usual tools that most voicing technicians already have. To me the result appears to be the same if I were to do a touch up voicing on a worn strike point just to break the percussive and unpleasant hammer strike without the needed filing. The tools are worth it if the voicer has the experienced ear and knows where to place the pick. String to hammer mating should be discussed as well.
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#1995888 - 12/07/12 10:25 AM Re: Rapidvoicer.com? [Re: rysowers]
Olek Offline
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Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 4200
Loc: France
This is not voiced.. Just broken so the tuning does not hurt.

The problem is about knowing what is a good piano tone made of.

But the guy seem to believe in what he say that may be an advantage...

Playing scales with sustain pedal is the oldest trick from pianoI dealers to sell pianos not prepared or with a harsh tone.. Which is the case of that Yamaha. noisy and percussive damped by near crown needling.. Close tone. No elasticity.
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#1995995 - 12/07/12 02:06 PM Re: Rapidvoicer.com? [Re: rysowers]
rysowers Offline
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Registered: 04/16/07
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Loc: Olympia, WA
I'm glad we got this discussion going, so at least if someone searches the web for more information they will find some alternative information. It could save a few people some money!
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