Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician
SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad) Yamaha CP4 Rebate
Yamaha CP4 Rebate
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
185 registered (accordeur, A Guy, ajames, anamnesis, 48 invisible), 1738 Guests and 13 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Topic Options
#1997724 - 12/11/12 03:40 AM High above the staves
justpin Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/25/12
Posts: 504
Loc: Holmes Chapel
I'm having troubles with sight reading and sheet music.

Any notes on the staves slightly above and below. I have no problem with. between B2 and F6, I have few problems with. In fact I'm rather amazed at how it just clicked into my head as I was stumbling around this occassionally having to glance at the display on my DP.

What I have problem with is notes below B2 and above F6 on sheet music. For the odd note here and there it isn't much of a problem as I can simply remember the note. But for other pieces where 8VA is not used I have to stop figure out the note usually by counting the ledger lines under or above it, then play the note. Almost exactly how I used to read notes on the staves themselves.

I think it is the lack of reference I know I use for the notes on the stave.

Any advice on this?

Thanks

Top
(ad) Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1997730 - 12/11/12 04:32 AM Re: High above the staves [Re: justpin]
Allard Offline
Full Member

Registered: 03/27/12
Posts: 345
Loc: Netherlands
I have this problem too, but I think it's just a matter of practise. These notes may not appear in music as much as others, so without sufficient practise it's hard to recognize. Stopping to count the lines clearly isn't an option, but it should be possible to see at a glance eventually. It might also do to just recognize intervals. G6 is easy enough to recognize after you've just played F6!
_________________________
David Lanz - Dark Horse
Yiruma - River Flows In You

Top
#1997732 - 12/11/12 04:41 AM Re: High above the staves [Re: justpin]
Bobpickle Offline

Gold Supporter until July 10  2014


Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 1387
Loc: Cameron Park, California
If it is in fact sight-reading that you're talking about, your approach to interpreting different notes should be done by reading intervals from prior notes and not actually "note-reading" (looking at the note and having to interpret it as a, b, d, f#, etc.). Reading "intervalically" in this way can be done with intervals of up to [and beyond] ninths (ex. bottom staff line to top staff line).

I think encountering notes as high as F6 (4 spaces above top staff line) or as low as B2 either without 8va and 8vb signs, respectively, or without the notes either being played as octaves (the connected notes being inside the grand staff and easy to read) or within a ninth or so of another note in the staff from which to read intervalically would be extremely unlikely.

Top
#1997766 - 12/11/12 07:55 AM Re: High above the staves [Re: justpin]
Roger Ransom Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 1300
Loc: SouthWest Michigan
I just write the notes in with a pencil. After I write a few key ones in, the others I just read relative to them.

"intervalically" This is actually a word, I looked it up. I just get smarter every day smile
_________________________
Laugh More
Yamaha G7 - Roland FP7

Top
#1997767 - 12/11/12 07:58 AM Re: High above the staves [Re: justpin]
malkin Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/18/09
Posts: 2921
Loc: *sigh* Salt Lake City
It is a matter of practice. As a former flute player, the leger notes above treble clef are my old friends. Below treble or anywhere in bass is quite another matter.
_________________________
Ladies and Gentlemen: This is not a competition, merely an exhibition. No wagering please.

Top
#1997860 - 12/11/12 12:10 PM Re: High above the staves [Re: Bobpickle]
justpin Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/25/12
Posts: 504
Loc: Holmes Chapel
You mean relativity?

I read a theory about remembering all the C above and below the staves notes. And working out the notes relative to the Cs because this will be identical to the relativity on the stave.

Top

Moderator:  BB Player, casinitaly 
What's Hot!!
The February 2015 Issue of our Free Piano News Newsletter is out now! FREE Piano Newsletter
--------------------
The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
(ad) Jazz Piano Online
Jazz Piano Online Lessons
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
New Topics - Multiple Forums
how to play a piano with sticks
by Michael Sayers
03/03/15 05:16 PM
1994 baldwin sd 10 concert grand
by piano man 3758
03/03/15 05:11 PM
What level of piece should you learn?
by ClarinetOnBroadway
03/03/15 05:00 PM
I need a new direction
by Norm Deplume
03/03/15 03:33 PM
Sign of the Times
by scorpio
03/03/15 01:48 PM
Forum Stats
78,379 Registered Members
43 Forums
162,045 Topics
2,379,264 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Gift Ideas for Music Lovers!
Find the Perfect Gift for the Music Lovers on your List!
Visit our online store today.

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission