Piano World Home Page Forums Our Most Popular Forums Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards First a Kawai CA63, then a CA93 and now a CA95

I believe they both have the same Sound Engine and pre-amp sections.

But, James may be able to amplify with this question.

I hope you meant the "zero difference" as in terms of sound only, but not the touch. As far as I know, the keys and pivots are longer therefore the touch and feel can be quite a difference.

Sound only.

"Sound only" ,

between CA65 and Ca95 that is. I think the remark above about longer keys are about the difference between RM3 and GF, so that would be a comparison between CA 63/93 and the new series. In that case the sound should be different too (?).

So:
CA65/95 comparison over headphones = same in touch and sound
CA63/93 comparison over headphone against the CA65/95 = difference in touch AND sound

Correct ?

In my experience not correct. As quoted earlier, at least two of us found significant differences (CA95 over good headphones, Sennheiser HD650, AKG271, AKG501 sounded with fewer distortions.)

James, Could you give us some authentic information about this, (or otherwise just your opinion) please, would be helpful? Thank You.

My local dealer told me the touch is not the same between CA65 and CA95. CA95 has Grand Feel(GF) with longer pivot points therefore it cannot be the same touch. Does Anyone agree?

Both CA 65 and CA 95 have the same GF action, at least according to the specs. I played on both at the same shop, and I couldn't identify any difference in feel.

Unfortunately your local dealer is incorrect.

The CA95 and CA65 keyboard actions are identical - they are both 'Grand Feel' (GF).

The previous generation CA93/CA63 models utilised the 'RM3 Grand' action, but differed in that the CA93 featured let-off, while the CA63 did not. This would potentially cause a slight difference in touch due to the let-off resistance felt when playing very gently.

However, in order to simplify product line-ups, we (Kawai) decided to make let-off a standard feature on the 'Grand Feel' and 'Responsive Hammer II' actions (currently used in the CA95/CA65 and CN34/CN24/ES7 respectively) - I believe our dealers and customers appreciate this decision.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,
James
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Thank you for your verification, James. May I ask how many watts of output for the amps and speakers on the CA65 and CA95? Why are the speakers a tad smaller on the newer model CA95 versus the older model CA93? Did I miss anything on the specs?

If the CA95 and CA65 are both played with the same settings through an
identical pair of headphones, the output is the same.




The total output power of the CA95 and CA93 is the same (both 135W).
However, the CA95 and CA93 speaker outpur power is a little different, due to technical reasons that I cannot explain here. Really, it's not something to be concerned about.

Cheers,
James
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I had a chance to try out the CA95 today at a Kawai dealer in Bangkok and all I can say is WOW! A very big WOW! The price, however, is way, way out of my range -- over US$ 6300 here in Thailand.

Have you tried other DPs beside CA95 for a comparision? This piano retails around $6000 in the US.

I don't believe it's quite that expensive in the US.

James
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James, that's what one of the local dealers told me while he was looking at the price list. Another dealer told me it is around $5700. That's why you need to know how to bargain. Since business is going very slow this year of time, it's the best time to buy I think.

Tried some other DP's like the CN34 and CN24. These, however, are in another class compared to the CA95.

Funny, though, I like the sound of the CN24 better than that from the CN34. The CN24 has a consistent sound character across the range, like that of the CA95, while the CN34's bass goes muffled. Very strange.

Oh, I tried some other pianos in the showroom too, the K. Kawai grands.

Last time I looked, the Dealer in MSP was asking about $54-5500 for the CA95 and then add 7.125% Sales Tax. Plus $180 Delivery charges.

$6025 or so ...

Yep, that's close to what I was told by my local dealer 2 days ago. He showed me the price list of MSRP. But, then again, MSRP is always up on the roof top. Who's going to buy it at that price anyway?

No one would want to pay $6,025 (the MSRP) for the CA95, so you bring your best offer to the dealer first and see what they say.

I negotiated with my dealer and purchased the CA95 for $4,082. My final price may be somewhat lower than other deals being made since I had a Casio AP-620 and a Wurlitzer spinet acoustic piano as trade-ins.

The final price also included delivery as the piano is already assembled and they roll it right into your house. And, the other two pianos were taken out. The best price can be negotiated with the dealer.

And, I did all of this with just a few e-mails and phone calls, as I live a good distance from the store.