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#1999424 - 12/14/12 01:39 PM Where did the "who's on line" go?
casinitaly Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 3681 Loc: Italy	Is it just me or is that no longer a feature available to us? I rather like being able to check out who is hanging about. _________________________ XVIII-XXX Go all the way - you will give fortissimo not a chicken poop mezzo forte.-FarmGirl
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#1999427 - 12/14/12 01:43 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
jotur 4000 Post Club Member Registered: 09/16/06 Posts: 4673 Loc: Santa Fe, NM	Good question. I use that feature, too. For awhile a couple of us southwest-late-night-other-parts-of-the-world posters would have some chat fests when we discovered we were all online. :\ Cathy
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#1999452 - 12/14/12 02:51 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: jotur]
griffin2417 Registered: 12/12/10 Posts: 2238 Loc: Minneapolis, MN	I've been missing this feature as well. I really like it! _________________________ Griffin
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#1999481 - 12/14/12 04:12 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
casinitaly Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 3681 Loc: Italy	Maybe we'll have to ask Frank to bring it back _________________________ XVIII-XXX Go all the way - you will give fortissimo not a chicken poop mezzo forte.-FarmGirl
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#1999487 - 12/14/12 04:21 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
Mark... 4000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/06 Posts: 4330 Loc: Jersey Shore	Frank probably has no clue its gone...
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#1999489 - 12/14/12 04:26 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: Mark...]
casinitaly Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 3681 Loc: Italy	Originally Posted By: Mark... Frank probably has no clue its gone... Well, ...now he does I just sent a message and asked about it . _________________________ XVIII-XXX Go all the way - you will give fortissimo not a chicken poop mezzo forte.-FarmGirl
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#1999531 - 12/14/12 06:47 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
Mark... 4000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/06 Posts: 4330 Loc: Jersey Shore	Originally Posted By: casinitaly Originally Posted By: Mark... Frank probably has no clue its gone... Well, ...now he does I just sent a message and asked about it . He answers his pm's even slower...
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#1999535 - 12/14/12 06:54 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: Mark...]
ChopinAddict 5000 Post Club Member Registered: 08/29/09 Posts: 5685 Loc: Land of the never-ending music	Another Mark had asked the question here a few days ago, but there were no replies (although there are 36 views). I am not bothered by the disappearance of this feature, but I can understand others might like it... _________________________
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#1999547 - 12/14/12 07:20 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
jotur 4000 Post Club Member Registered: 09/16/06 Posts: 4673 Loc: Santa Fe, NM	It's back! On my view it's at the bottom of the right-hand column. Yea, Frank! Cathy
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#1999675 - 12/15/12 03:44 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
casinitaly Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 3681 Loc: Italy	yup! I see it too. Thanks Frank! _________________________ XVIII-XXX Go all the way - you will give fortissimo not a chicken poop mezzo forte.-FarmGirl
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#1999727 - 12/15/12 08:44 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
griffin2417 Registered: 12/12/10 Posts: 2238 Loc: Minneapolis, MN	Yes, I see it. Thanks Frank!! _________________________ Griffin
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#1999728 - 12/15/12 08:45 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
jdw Full Member Registered: 03/04/11 Posts: 424 Loc: Philadelphia, PA	Gee, I never knew you could stalk people like that . Maybe I'll go and snoop--but then others will know that I'm "checking who's online." _________________________ 1989 Baldwin R
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#1999772 - 12/15/12 11:12 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
wouter79 2000 Post Club Member Registered: 02/14/10 Posts: 2620	yes it's there >161 registered , 1524 guests interesting, I never realized that the guests were so much more than the registered _________________________
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#1999792 - 12/15/12 12:00 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: ChopinAddict]
Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/11/09 Posts: 17964 Loc: New York	Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict Another Mark had asked the question here a few days ago, but there were no replies (although there are 36 views). Sure did! I didn't notice this thread till just now. Casinitaly: Good job! Originally Posted By: wouter79 yes it's there >161 registered , 1524 guests interesting, I never realized that the guests were so much more than the registered I was surprised when I first noticed that too. Another sign of it is how many more "views" there are than replies on almost every thread -- usually about 10:1. Apparently gajillions of people like to look up things on here or just find their way here via internet searches. Our site is read by many more people than just those who post. The most striking stats of all are on the "Just for those totally devoted to Chopin" thread -- the ratio there is about 1000:1!
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#1999807 - 12/15/12 12:36 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
casinitaly Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 3681 Loc: Italy	I think that members show up as guests when they just come to have a look, but don't sign in. I rarely log out, (lazzzzzzy There are a number of threads I read but don't reply to --- including the Chopin one, RST, Calling Jerry Groot, Piano Bar and so on... I just can't keep up with all of them though and tend to just focus on one or two main ones. _________________________ XVIII-XXX Go all the way - you will give fortissimo not a chicken poop mezzo forte.-FarmGirl
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#1999812 - 12/15/12 12:50 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/11/09 Posts: 17964 Loc: New York	One of the main benefits of the feature for me has been finding cool old threads. It's the main way I've found them -- seeing that someone online had somehow found it. Like, when I was working on a Scriabin sonata, I happened to see that someone was reading a very old discussion of the piece and I then clicked on it. Sure, I could probably have found it myself by a search, but I'm just not very interested in doing that (too much like "research" and I'm not here for work) plus, a lot of those interesting old threads have been on topics that I never would have thought of looking for myself.
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#1999826 - 12/15/12 01:21 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: Mark_C]
Stubbie Full Member Registered: 12/16/10 Posts: 205 Loc: Midwest USA	Originally Posted By: Mark_C Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict Another Mark had asked the question here a few days ago, but there were no replies (although there are 36 views). Sure did! I didn't notice this thread till just now. Casinitaly: Good job! Originally Posted By: wouter79 yes it's there >161 registered , 1524 guests interesting, I never realized that the guests were so much more than the registered I was surprised when I first noticed that too. Another sign of it is how many more "views" there are than replies on almost every thread -- usually about 10:1. Apparently gajillions of people like to look up things on here or just find their way here via internet searches. Our site is read by many more people than just those who post. The most striking stats of all are on the "Just for those totally devoted to Chopin" thread -- the ratio there is about 1000:1! The majority of the time I read PW I'm not logged in, so I fall in the guest category. I lurked for almost a year before I registered. So between dedicated lurkers and registered users not being logged in, it's not surprising (to me) that the number of guests is high. Quote: Another sign of it is how many more "views" there are than replies on almost every thread -- usually about 10:1. 10:1 (10%) seems high to me. More like 2.5-5%, based on eyeball calculations (and a few with calculator in hand :)). The 2.5-5% reply rate seems pretty typical of several other forums I frequent. Maybe it says something about the prevalence of certain personality types amongst the public, who knows? _________________________ Wherever you go, there you are.
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#1999838 - 12/15/12 01:45 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: Stubbie]
Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/11/09 Posts: 17964 Loc: New York	Originally Posted By: Stubbie 10:1 (10%) seems high to me. More like 2.5-5%, based on eyeball calculations (and a few with calculator in hand :)). The 2.5-5% reply rate seems pretty typical of several other forums I frequent. Maybe it says something about the prevalence of certain personality types amongst the public, who knows? You're right! I haven't been paying close enough attention. The ratio of views to posts is even more extreme than I thought. Where I got the other figure (I guess): From another site I've participated in (on baseball). The usual ratio there is 'only' about 10:1, and I just forgot that it's not the same on here. I may have never quite noticed that it was so much higher here in general. (I did notice the very extreme ratio on the Chopin thread.)
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#2000147 - 12/16/12 07:50 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
ClsscLib Registered: 03/14/08 Posts: 1163 Loc: Northern VA, U.S.	So what's a "spider" on the "Who's Online" scoreboard? _________________________ I'd be tender, I'd be gentle And awfully sentimental Regarding love and art... I'd be friends with the sparrows And the boy who shoots the arrows If I only had a heart. -- E.Y. "Yip" Harburg and Harold Arlen
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#2000213 - 12/16/12 11:28 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: ClsscLib]
casinitaly Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 3681 Loc: Italy	Originally Posted By: ClsscLib So what's a "spider" on the "Who's Online" scoreboard? It is a "web crawler".... Google and other search engines use spiders to index information. Spider - web - world wide web.... Geeky humour ? _________________________ XVIII-XXX Go all the way - you will give fortissimo not a chicken poop mezzo forte.-FarmGirl
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#2000274 - 12/16/12 02:05 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
Michael Taylor Full Member Registered: 04/05/11 Posts: 348 Loc: Discovery Bay, California	I don't post very often, but I lurk daily! I really enjoy this website. _________________________ Piano obsession started November 2010. Ragtime Butcher Kayserburg U123 http://www.youtube.com/user/michaelt3032
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#2000282 - 12/16/12 02:18 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/11/09 Posts: 17964 Loc: New York	Originally Posted By: casinitaly Originally Posted By: ClsscLib So what's a "spider" on the "Who's Online" scoreboard? It is a "web crawler".... Google and other search engines use spiders to index information. Spider - web - world wide web.... Geeky humour ? I never knew either. And really I still don't.
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#2000331 - 12/16/12 04:04 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
ChopinAddict 5000 Post Club Member Registered: 08/29/09 Posts: 5685 Loc: Land of the never-ending music	Spiders _________________________
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#2000438 - 12/16/12 08:35 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: ChopinAddict]
Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/11/09 Posts: 17964 Loc: New York	Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict Spiders OK.... Why would that be a thing that is included (fairly routinely, I gather) in site info, such as in something like "Who's Online"? In other words: who cares, why is it of interest, what do we gain from knowing it? That was the main thing I didn't get after the first description (because it made me think I wasn't understanding what it was).
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#2000441 - 12/16/12 08:41 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
tangleweeds Registered: 12/21/08 Posts: 965 Loc: Portlandia	I've always found the spider count interesting. When I google on a topic being discussed here, google's spiders have almost always been here already to index the discussion. No doubt there are also spiders seeking email addresses to spam. _________________________ Please step aside. You're standing in your own way. piano blog
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#2000445 - 12/16/12 09:02 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: tangleweeds]
Piano World 5000 Post Club Member Registered: 05/24/01 Posts: 5365 Loc: Parsonsfield, ME (originally N...	Originally Posted By: tangleweeds I've always found the spider count interesting. When I google on a topic being discussed here, google's spiders have almost always been here already to index the discussion. No doubt there are also spiders seeking email addresses to spam. If you look at the list of spiders (also found in the who's online section) they are all search engine spiders. They are primarily indexing the threads, but if you have an email address plainly listed in a thread it could well get indexed. If it's only in your profile, they won't get it. Last time I checked, Google had over 2,600,000 pages indexed for Piano World overall. _________________________ - Frank B. Founder / Host www.PianoWorld.com www.PianoSupplies.com Find Us On: Facebook.com/PianoWorldDotCom Twitter.com/PianoWorld www.youtube.com/PianoWorldDotCom Estonia L-190, Yamaha P-80, Hammond XK-3 ------------------------- It's Fun To Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!
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#2000475 - 12/16/12 10:27 PM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: Piano World]
Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/11/09 Posts: 17964 Loc: New York	Huh -- so, the specific spiders show up? Where? (I looked, and didn't find -- including on "Who's Online.") edit: Aha -- at the bottom of the Who's Online page. I never looked down that far. Edited by Mark_C (12/16/12 10:29 PM)
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#2001983 - 12/20/12 04:48 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
ChopinAddict 5000 Post Club Member Registered: 08/29/09 Posts: 5685 Loc: Land of the never-ending music	I wonder if it is not a bit too intrusive though... The list even specifies when people are viewing private messages, although it doesn't say from whom... Still... _________________________
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#2001986 - 12/20/12 05:03 AM Re: Where did the "who's on line" go? [Re: casinitaly]
casinitaly Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 3681 Loc: Italy	Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict I wonder if it is not a bit too intrusive though... The list even specifies when people are viewing private messages, although it doesn't say from whom... Still... ?? I really don't see anything intrusive about it. If it showed to whom you were writing or receiving from .. that would be different. So what if someone is writing or reading a private message? As long as you can't see the contents, I can't see that it matters at all. It is a public forum - what you do is public. What you read or write may be private. _________________________ XVIII-XXX Go all the way - you will give fortissimo not a chicken poop mezzo forte.-FarmGirl
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