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#1999670 - 12/15/12 02:56 AM The Endless Flow of Music Within
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"Within every human being lies a flow of music, as endless as the oceans and as individual as a fingerprint" -- Joy of Improv (Hal Leonard)

This unusual video features NYC solo piano monster Dave Frank as he seeks to express this innate human capacity. We dare you to watch this to the end:)

http://youtu.be/m5osoT3m1ZM

Thanks for your indulgence.

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#1999828 - 12/15/12 01:21 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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Originally Posted By: davefrank
"Within every human being lies a flow of music, as endless as the oceans and as individual as a fingerprint" -- Joy of Improv (Hal Leonard)


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#1999829 - 12/15/12 01:22 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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Originally Posted By: davefrank

This unusual video features NYC solo piano monster Dave Frank as he seeks to express this innate human capacity. We dare you to watch this to the end:)



How do you manage to stay so humble Dave?


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#1999831 - 12/15/12 01:27 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: polyphasicpianist]
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Originally Posted By: polyphasicpianist
Originally Posted By: davefrank

This unusual video features NYC solo piano monster Dave Frank as he seeks to express this innate human capacity. We dare you to watch this to the end:)



How do you manage to stay so humble Dave?



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#1999971 - 12/15/12 06:32 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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Dave Frank, you are very talented, that goes without saying. It's really difficult for me to express why I never really liked your presentations ... but I'll try.

I watched your master class with Dick Hyman ... and all the time I'm thinking, this is Dick Hyman's master class and you have the role of moderator. You don't come across that way, you come across as the expert and are spending some time with a well known and older pianist ... and we should thank you for bringing him to our attention.

The contrast between you and Dick Hyman is stark. He dons none of the jazz affectations ... he's not dressed entirely in black; he does not have his shirt outside of his pants; he does not wear a beret ... indoors, ... none of the affectations that for some reason really irritate me. He comes across as a jazz\businessman ... and I can imagine at the end of that particular master class his first words to you were, do I get paid in cash or check?

I watched the beginning of the link you just now posted and I have the same irritation I have when watching other jazz pianists emote. OK, I get it, you're perhaps on a more spiritual jazz level than I am, but it still somehow rubs me the wrong way. Why is that? Is it just me?

I wish you all the success ... but I still get irritated when watching you ... and this isn't jealously. You have more technique than I, and you have a better command of the various jazz styles than I, I just wouldn't want to spend my time watching that entire link because you dared me.

Time for a glass of wine. All the best.
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#1999979 - 12/15/12 07:11 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: Dave Horne]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Horne

I watched your master class with Dick Hyman ... and all the time I'm thinking, this is Dick Hyman's master class and you have the role of moderator. You don't come across that way, you come across as the expert and are spending some time with a well known and older pianist ... and we should thank you for bringing him to our attention.

The contrast between you and Dick Hyman is stark. He dons none of the jazz affectations ... he's not dressed entirely in black; he does not have his shirt outside of his pants; he does not wear a beret ... indoors, ... none of the affectations that for some reason really irritate me. He comes across as a jazz\businessman ... and I can imagine at the end of that particular master class his first words to you were, do I get paid in cash or check?
I find most/all of these criticisms rather silly, especially those about jazz affectations.

I am a classical pianist(although I play a lot of written out jazz transcriptions of famous jazz pianists), and I watched the entire Dick Hyman master class video. I didn't feel any of the things mentioned in the post I quoted.

Why can't the interviewer come across as having some expertise? I thought Dave's questions were straight forward and interesting.



Edited by pianoloverus (12/15/12 07:13 PM)

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#1999982 - 12/15/12 07:17 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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Thanks for sharing.

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#2000000 - 12/15/12 08:16 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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I like the cap!
Very enjoyable, thanks.

I am NOT convinced, however, that every individual experiences the "endless flow of music within".
Seriously. If I hear music that speaks to my soul, I very often tear up at its beauty.
" Time to Say Goodbye" , sung by Andrea Bocelli & Sarah Brightman often sparks this reaction in me.



My sister, on the other hand , I don't know....I think she HEARS music, but doesn't feel it as deeply. It's "background" for her.

Did I interpret that quote correctly or not?
I've often thought about music and how people react to it.
Some people seem to hear it...and others FEEL it, deep within.
Thank God, I'm in the second group.
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#2000002 - 12/15/12 08:22 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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The potential is there for all humans to develop. Improvisation, IMO, is a God-given human faculty that is universally a potential for everyone. No different than any other language.

DF

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#2000015 - 12/15/12 08:50 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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#2000051 - 12/15/12 10:29 PM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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Edited by Kreisler (12/16/12 11:45 AM)
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#2000116 - 12/16/12 04:32 AM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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I agree with Pianoloverus. I get a lot of enjoyment from Dave's videos. He's a real character, and even if, like me, you aren't particularly fond of the sound known as jazz, much of what he says acts as a springboard to new ideas about more general improvisation. It is also most generous of him to bother making and posting these things when he could simply spend his valuable time improvising and recording in solitude.


Edited by Ted (12/16/12 04:35 AM)
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#2000144 - 12/16/12 07:20 AM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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*sobs* thanks, Ted.

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#2000214 - 12/16/12 11:29 AM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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Originally Posted By: davefrank
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? I hope you communicate in music more effectively than you do in print!


Edited by Kreisler (12/16/12 11:46 AM)
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#2000219 - 12/16/12 11:47 AM Re: The Endless Flow of Music Within [Re: davefrank]
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Since this has been cross-posted to the non-classical forum, please continue the discussion there.

Thanks.
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