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Yes, homo sapiens weren't evolved to be vegans, which is why vegans need vitamin and mineral supplementation to avoid health problems.


...nothing compared with the health problems caused by the vast quantities of cholesterol consumed nowadays and which is only found in animal meat and fluids. B12 and D2 are the most important supplements vegans need, all other essential vitamins and minerals are found in abundance - and better quality - in a well balanced plant-based diet , such as my wife and I eat. We only need B12 supplements because of the sanitised lives we lead nowadays, which means that we do not get the vitamin naturally from bacteria, as do the animals. And D3 is largely derived from sheep's wool, for goodness sake! Incidentally we've never enjoyed our food so much, so much so that we no longer even miss cheese! I'm 61 and have never been healthier (my doctor is amazed at my blood chemistry).

Of course it's for everyone to make their own informed decision about the life they lead, including the food they eat. Having said this, the cruelty and scale of the factory farming of intelligent animals (including fish), with its associated huge pollution, is the greatest crime on earth in my opinion. My fear is that enlightenment and acceptance of the stark truth, although growing, will come too late - far too late for our delicate ecosystems to recover.

My best to you all.


The omega 3 fatty acids from fish and seafood (EPA and DHA) is different from that in the plants that contain these like flaxseed (ALA), which isn't found to offer the kind of cardio-protective and anti-inflammatory effects. We eat the wrong ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 in the West, which vegan diets don't do much to reverse. There is a (very high-dose) omega 3 supplement which is currently prescribed to people following heart attacks to reduce the risk of a subsequent attack in the immediate aftermath, which is entirely derived from fish/seafood, and is also used to treat people with high levels of triglycerides.

As for those unable to stop eating cheese, just think of it as salted lard. It tastes like that to me..... grin


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As long as you're mentioning fat ... smile

By the way, my grandmother cooked with lard and butter ... she lived to be 95.

I've watched this twice ...



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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
As long as you're mentioning fat ... smile

By the way, my grandmother cooked with lard and butter ... she lived to be 95.

I've watched this twice ...



You've confirmed what I've suspected from your post about your cholesterol level - you have inherited great genes. (I hope you're passing them on....grin). Just like our Royal Family.

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Lard is nice. I cook chips in it and occasionally make pastry with it.

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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
As long as you're mentioning fat ... smile

By the way, my grandmother cooked with lard and butter ... she lived to be 95.


I still cook with lard and butter. I wouldn't use anything but lard for a pie crust.

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Originally Posted by Damon
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As long as you're mentioning fat ... smile

By the way, my grandmother cooked with lard and butter ... she lived to be 95.


I still cook with lard and butter. I wouldn't use anything but lard for a pie crust.


Nor would I.
That's why I don't make pies grin. I prefer to munch on them, like the mince pie that's in my mouth right now....


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Originally Posted by Damon
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As long as you're mentioning fat ... smile

By the way, my grandmother cooked with lard and butter ... she lived to be 95.


I still cook with lard and butter. I wouldn't use anything but lard for a pie crust.


You know, since I recently started cooking with butter I am always reminded of my grandmother ... the smell of butter cooking triggers memories from my childhood.


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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
You know, since I recently started cooking with butter I am always reminded of my grandmother ... the smell of butter cooking triggers memories from my childhood.
Aww. 3hearts It's interesting how smells trigger memories.


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After I started rock climbing I hace actually gotten better technically at the piano... I guess a greater arm strenght gives a better velocity. I normally have long school days combined with staying at school afterwards to study and play the piano. If I don't eat well, work out or sleep well I would notice it in my performance level at once. I think and belive that a healthy life is extremely important to perform, and also prevent injuries.

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