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Are those even the right notes?
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Neat sites! But they gave me five incorrect answers in a row.
The first one gave me zero.
The second gave me mostly non-classical even though I specified "classical" and it said "classical." But BTW most of the classical things it gave were Beethoven, although none of them really resembled what we've got here.
#2000092 - 12/16/1201:26 AMRe: looking for piece of Beethoven
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I have a feeling the OP gave the wrong notes. Beethoven doesn't do A minor very often.
But those sites are fun when they come up with crazy titles I've never heard of. I guess there are only so many permutations of letters when you don't take into account the register, rhythm, or tempo.
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#2000095 - 12/16/1201:36 AMRe: looking for piece of Beethoven
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Originally Posted By: AZNpiano
I have a feeling the OP gave the wrong notes. Beethoven doesn't do A minor very often.
I wouldn't consider that "the wrong notes." I never assumed it was being given in the exact key, nor that the OP was trying to do that. I actually consider it sort of standard to give 'unknown' melodies in C major or minor (which is what the "Dictionary of Musical Themes" does) or A minor.
2nd movement of Beethoven's 3rd Cello Sonata. And it IS in a minor.
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#2000281 - 12/16/1202:16 PMRe: looking for piece of Beethoven
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This is interesting.
MarkH's example seemed pretty darn close.
Itay, can we ask: Where do you think you got it, and how do you know it's exactly that? (Or at least very close.) I think we've all had instances where we've misremembered a melody, in varying degrees. For example, a while back, I asked about a phrase that was stuck in my mind, and I was pretty sure I had it right but in fact I had one of the harmonies wrong. (Beet314 was able to give the answer anyway.)
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I'm latching on to a Bagatelle, but I have no idea which one. It just sounds like it might be one. Probably not by Beethoven, though, since I don't think he wrote any in A-minor. Any of the experts have a clue?
I can tell you I've never seen or heard this piece before based on the OP's rendition of the notes they remember.
OP- do you no longer have the sheet music for it anywhere in the house? Do you remember if you played it out of a book, or off a photocopy? (Book would be better.. I'd ask if you remember what book?)
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#2000304 - 12/16/1203:09 PMRe: looking for piece of Beethoven
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Originally Posted By: Derulux
....Probably not by Beethoven, though, since I don't think he wrote any in A-minor....
Remember, he never said it was in that key. (And even if it was given in A minor in that study book, it wouldn't mean much.)
A couple of other posters took the key sort of seriously, and I think that's a mistake with things like this, including because often there is no attempt or intent to duplicate the actual key -- including in reference books.
#2000307 - 12/16/1203:19 PMRe: looking for piece of Beethoven
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Originally Posted By: Derulux
I'm latching on to a Bagatelle, but I have no idea which one. It just sounds like it might be one. Probably not by Beethoven, though, since I don't think he wrote any in A-minor. Any of the experts have a clue? [...]
I did go through all of the Beethoven "Bagatellen" not searching for A minor but searching for the theme as posted by the OP, but did not find anything resembling the theme he played. Won't I be embarrassed if it turns out to be a Bagatelle?
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#2000309 - 12/16/1203:22 PMRe: looking for piece of Beethoven
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
Won't I be embarrassed if it turns out to be a Bagatelle?
I don't think you'd be the first one here to be embarrassed.
BTW, looking up those notes in "Dictionary of Musical Themes" (transposed to C minor, as is needed), the closest examples are by Vivaldi and Frescobaldi. I don't mean I think it's by one of them -- those examples clearly aren't it. Just sayin'.