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#1999993 - 12/15/12 07:46 PM Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt
ABC Vermonter Offline
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Hi,

This is one of the new pieces that I learned this semester.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdET-a4jkE

Thank you for your suggestions and comments.

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#2000024 - 12/15/12 09:11 PM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
trigalg693 Offline
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Sounds kinda new, so I'm sure you'll work on it and improve things but I do have a suggestion, which is pay attention to tempo! It's not too bad but there are parts which are noticeably faster, and a few measures where you lose the pulse altogether (the places with the chords that are syncopated in the right hand, and the hands alternate). Also sometimes the tone is harsh, it's great and clear but you can try less hard and produce a more pleasing, less sharp sound.

(don't worry, I worked on this piece for a while so my criticisms might be a bit harsh)


Edited by trigalg693 (12/15/12 09:15 PM)

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#2000181 - 12/16/12 09:27 AM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
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trigalg693,

Thanks for your suggestions and comments. They are not harsh at all. This piece is indeed new to me. The control is simply not there yet. As you know, it is a big piece and it takes time. And you are right; I will work on it and the remaining movements. They will go to camps in this coming summer. Hopefully, they will sound good by that time. smile


Edited by ABC Vermonter (12/16/12 09:28 AM)

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#2000188 - 12/16/12 09:58 AM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
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You are very fortunate to be able to play this well as a 14 year old. I'm sure you also spent countless hours achieving this skill level. My wild guess is that only 1 in 500(and maybe far fewer) who take up piano are ever capable at any age of even considering playing this piece.

The piece is if course difficult in every way, and I think the fact that so many of the greatest pianists have played it adds another layer of difficulty. That of almost inevitable comparison.

BRAVO!

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#2000362 - 12/16/12 06:14 PM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
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pianoloverus,

Thanks for your kind words.

Countless hours? I think that is what I needed. It is just kind of difficult because I am attending a public school. The amount of homework is just unbelievable. Someone told me that the highschool life in Finland is much better. smile

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#2000416 - 12/16/12 07:49 PM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
trigalg693 Offline
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Originally Posted By: ABC Vermonter
pianoloverus,

Thanks for your kind words.

Countless hours? I think that is what I needed. It is just kind of difficult because I am attending a public school. The amount of homework is just unbelievable. Someone told me that the highschool life in Finland is much better. smile


Hah, just do what I did, get your sleep during class, do half the homework in between classes! laugh

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#2000644 - 12/17/12 10:26 AM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
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In learning this piece myself, one of the most helpful/important things I was told was simply that 'it's all in the same tempo'.
For me, a constant pulse is the key to creating a cohesive whole in this movement. Vary the sections with colour and character, not speed. Lots and lots of metronome practice laugh lol
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#2000651 - 12/17/12 11:01 AM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: debrucey]
trigalg693 Offline
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Originally Posted By: debrucey
In learning this piece myself, one of the most helpful/important things I was told was simply that 'it's all in the same tempo'.
For me, a constant pulse is the key to creating a cohesive whole in this movement. Vary the sections with colour and character, not speed. Lots and lots of metronome practice laugh lol


Good advice to pay attention to for all Beethoven. It's so easy to change tempo, and it doesn't seem odd until you listen to it on recording.


Edited by trigalg693 (12/17/12 11:01 AM)

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#2000658 - 12/17/12 11:24 AM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
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Definitely true, although it seems to particularly effect this movement, I think because there are so many different textures and sections.
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Poulenc - Nocturnes and Novellettes
Barber - Souvenirs
Esa-Pekka Salonen - Dichotomie
Kevin Oldham - Ballade, Op. 17

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#2000851 - 12/17/12 07:34 PM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: trigalg693]
ABC Vermonter Offline
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"Hah, just do what I did, get your sleep during class, do half the homework in between classes! "

trigalg693,

That sounds almost like a plan. The problem is that I have very good and intense teachers. smile


Edited by ABC Vermonter (12/17/12 07:37 PM)

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#2000853 - 12/17/12 07:40 PM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: debrucey]
ABC Vermonter Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
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Originally Posted By: debrucey
In learning this piece myself, one of the most helpful/important things I was told was simply that 'it's all in the same tempo'.
For me, a constant pulse is the key to creating a cohesive whole in this movement. Vary the sections with colour and character, not speed. Lots and lots of metronome practice laugh lol


debrucey,

Thanks for the suggestions and comments. Yes, I need to use my metronome more often.

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#2000868 - 12/17/12 08:28 PM Re: Beethoven Appassionata 1st mvt [Re: ABC Vermonter]
trigalg693 Offline
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Originally Posted By: ABC Vermonter

"Hah, just do what I did, get your sleep during class, do half the homework in between classes! "

trigalg693,

That sounds almost like a plan. The problem is that I have very good and intense teachers. smile


All my teachers hated me, that's for sure XD

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