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Hm... The Movie Maker option seems to be most appealing option. I'll check it out.

Do you guy's consider we should make a "Themed Recital Index" Thread? Say starting with themed recital 1, 2 .... this one, and then possible future ones? Maybe just the Recitals (without feedback) So it's like an index of our achievments. What you reckon?

Have you LOOKED at the titles of the ones left?

Allegro,
Allegro di molto,
Presto e molto vivace,
AGITATO !

Gordon Bennett !!! (no, that's not in the title )

I think any lurkers would have to be super courageous to take on any of those!

However, it really does look like the list is near completion!
Looking forward to the mega recital!

You only live once CasinItaly,

Considering that it's an ABF project I think we've done well enough to get where we are already. The remaining pieces are not ABF material unless you already know them or are confident of getting them in the time available.

You've done an admirable recruiting job, Wayne, and deserve a special mention for that.

But I don't think we need an index. This should be a fun thing, easy pieces that won't interfere with the normal ABF recitals or the curriculum of people who are paying for lessons with a teacher.

Since the objective is to increase the bond between fellows in the ABF, extending beyond the ABF shouldn't be required and especially not to just fill up the numbers.

Aiming for 48 unique pieces, and their being of such a high standard (though I know of a harder collection of 48), when the ABF recitals don't go much beyond that was a long shot and I think you've done a splendid job recruiting the numbers we have so far. The problem I see is that willing folks have been turned away by the high entry bar (and many of them are folks I'd be happy to bond with).

I've enjoyed helping others on this (thanks for the recognition, btw), and that's building bonds for me - I wouldn't even feel the need to participate in the performance to feel part of it - but I've had to struggle through a few of these pieces in limited time to make sure I wasn't giving the wrong advice and it's eaten into my own repertory development.

One of these books, or even his Op. 72, would have been fun in the RST but simpler is better for the ABF as a whole.

This is an excellent starter and I commend you for it but if you're thinking of more in the future The Anna Magdalena Notebook, Burgmüller's Op. 100 or Bartok's Mikrokosmos might be more suitable vehicles (with duplicates allowed). I expect many of the new beginners might even enjoy hearing how their peers (or more experienced players) do with some of the Alfred's pieces without the stress of the more serious ABF recitals. Or our own arrangement of the Ode to Joy.

Is there something about "Allegro" "Agitato" and "Presto" that people don`t like? heh heh

Turns out I can play my piece faster and more reliably using the score. On the other hand, I wouldn't be able to find all the notes so well if I hadn't done the deep work required for memorization.

So I am confused about memorization. So many other people seem to only be able to play, and play much better, when working purely from memory, and/or find the score to be mostly useless after the initial deciphering. It doesn't seem to be like that for me. Am I still missing something about memorizing? Am I unusual in finding the score so helpful?

("Faster" is relative: 30 bpm vs. 20 bpm or less.)

I find I only need the score if I don't know what's going off! Thats why I liked the Philip Glass metamorphosis pieces, because they are easy to understand. The Satie recital was a case of listening and copying from the score, as for is this Mendelssohn recital, for me. I'm considering asking Richard for his help understanding must be key

I gave up memorizing complete scores a couple of years ago. I'm too old and life's too short (I'm starting my 6th year back at the piano - I can't believe it's been that long). I only memorize the hardest parts where I have to look at my hands, and I don't work at that - it just sort of happens after practicing over and over.

The pros memorize everything because it is expected of them. I'm playing for fun and my own enjoyment. Memorizing complete scores just adds too much stress. I developed my reading skills so it wasn't an issue and I'm much happier for it.

Sam

I'm happy to report that I am reading along nicely on 102,no.6 to this day. For Op 102 no. 1 though ... not a chance. Everything is being memorized as quickly as possible and just using the score to fix areas.

It is not to perfect the performance that I am doing this, but rather a necessity. I learned to play long before I learned to read. Reading (at this level) is just developing now. 102 no. 1, is WAY over my head to read and play at the same time. Even at practice tempo.

The advantage of this would be that there's a piece in there appropriate to probably every single member of PW, either in their comfort zone or at their most ambitious.

I'd put myself down for Book 1 No.1

Is that these?

"links removed"

- if you're taking in nominations how about Grieg's lyric pieces, lots to choose from and for a broad range of abilities.

We will go with the majority vote, thnx Dire tonic

Grieg's Lyric pieces

I may be busy that weekend!

We might aim for consensus first as that may garner more participants. Are we going to finish the Mendelssohn one first?

I think that would be best

and I seriously don't know where to start analising Op.85 no.2

Where are you with 85/2?

What's your biggest or most immediate problem?

And what else in descending order of gravity?

I've got Part I and II memorised, almost, and relatively slowly. I've just started on part III. I can hear the melody when playing part I, but only fractions of the melody in part II. I'm hoping to get there, my main weakness is understanding what's going on, I've no idea, I'm just reading and playing the notes in the right places. So I'm just sort of copying what's there, and not really learning anything.

I've tried analising it like you guys in the sonata thread, but with no luck, I'm lost after measure one lol

- Thanks for posting the link, Wayne. There’s a mixture of performances there not all of which quite whet the appetite ....I'd recommend the curious to check out youtube also...

will do Diretonic