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#200381 - 07/01/05 06:45 PM Palatino brand uprights
kkohl Offline
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Registered: 07/01/05
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Loc: Chicago
We put a deposit on a Palatino piano today to lock in a sales price. We have until Sunday to make a final decision. The piano looks great and has a nice sound, but we can't find any information, ratings, or reviews on this new brand. What can anyone tell us?

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#200382 - 07/01/05 08:31 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
JRoss1461 Offline
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Loc: Wisconsin
What model? grand or upright.

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#200383 - 07/01/05 08:55 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
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#200384 - 07/01/05 09:07 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
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kkohl,

To my knowledge, in thie Forum, there is only one dealer-member who represents the Palatino brand. Do a " search " on this Forum for the "Palatino" keyword for posts by "Paul Y" and you might find some writing about Palatino. "Paul Y" is the only dealer here who sells the Palatino brand and is so far the only one who seems to have experience with it and have written about it here.

Generally, the common advise is for people to take their time to comparison-shop, play many different pianos before deciding, and not plunge into a purchase too quickly.

Good luck.
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#200385 - 07/02/05 06:29 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
kkohl Offline
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Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 3
Loc: Chicago
We are looking at the upright - no room for a grand.

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#200386 - 07/02/05 06:41 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Paul Y Offline
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kkohl,

Ax is correct in suggesting my company represents Palatino. It is fairly new to us and we took it on as a replacement for Pearl River.

It represents a lot of piano for the money in our estimation! We have primarily featured the 48" "professional upright" as an alternative to those who do not wish to spend many thousands above their pricing but want the volume and bigger sound of, let's say, the Yamaha U1.

A plus: the polished mahogany (normally $1,000 extra on a Yamaha) is the same price as the polished ebony.
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#200387 - 07/02/05 07:07 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
kkohl Offline
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Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 3
Loc: Chicago
Thanks to those who have replied so far. To me, the Palatino (yes, mahogany) had a richer sound than the Baldwin/Hamilton. I don't want to jump into anything too quickly, but we have tried many brands I believe, and this one seems to stand out.
WE HAVE UNTIL TOMORROW, SO PLEASE KEEP RESPONDING!

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#200388 - 07/02/05 09:37 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Paul Y Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Loc: Nashua, NH
Kkohl,

You are right not to jump into anything too quickly. But you have already decided that you like the sound better than the Baldwin sound, so it doesn't matter what name appears on the fallboard! Besides, choosing Palatino over Baldwin saves you literally thousands of dollars!

Is it a Yamaha? Certainly not. Is it a Steinway? Certainly not. But it is not priced like those pianos either! As I said before, for the money, it must be rated as a "best buy"!
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#200389 - 07/02/05 01:19 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Albanypark38 Offline
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Registered: 06/29/05
Posts: 56
kkohl

If it looks like a piano and sounds like a piano, then it is a piano. If you like the sound and the finish and the service you get form the dealer, then do not hesitate.

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#200390 - 07/02/05 03:59 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Benecs Offline
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Registered: 06/01/05
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Well, I tested both the Palatino and Pearl River, and liked the Pearl River much better. But I have to add, that while the Pearl River was prepared well, the palatino wasn't. That way it's hard to make an objective picture of the piano.

Good luck!
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#200391 - 07/02/05 09:16 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Albanypark38 Offline
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k kohl

I have found in my experience that the way the piano is prepped before you receive it is the key.
If the technician in the store adopts the piano as his own and loves what he does then, then the piano belongs to you. Don't we buy pianos for what is sounds like and what it looks like? Before we get into too much information overload, try not to become too analytical. Isn't the Palatino considered to be one of the up and coming Chinese brands, according to Mr. Fine?

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#200392 - 07/03/05 04:08 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
ellll Offline
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Registered: 07/02/05
Posts: 56
Loc: Kentucky
I wonder if the Palatino can be superior to Pearl River....or others..

Palatino is made from components from around the world, by an old instrument maker, I think in shanghai...soundboard,case,strings,action...etc..all coming from somewhere else, and assembled at Palatino...

Short list of some Chinese pianos...:

Steigerman. Maddison, Taishan, Saganhaft, Brentwood, Pearl River, Strauss, Ritmuller, Kranach, Bach, Fandrich,Steck, Eavestaff....

John Cont

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#200393 - 07/03/05 04:18 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
ellll Offline
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Registered: 07/02/05
Posts: 56
Loc: Kentucky
Just ran a check...

Palatino...Made in Shanghai. Growing reputation.

Regards, John Cont

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#200394 - 07/03/05 11:44 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
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#200395 - 07/03/05 11:53 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
transpsych Offline
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Registered: 03/31/04
Posts: 136
Loc: New York
There are two pianos with the name hamilton. The first being BALDWIN HAMILTON- this piano will say Baldwin on the fall board (Hamilton is the series) this line is the old Baldwin Standard(45" Studios) model 243, and the 5000 series(designer cabinets) these are made in Truman Arkansas.
The other being HAMILTON (inside says: a product of Baldwin), this piano is made in China.
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#200396 - 07/03/05 12:27 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
tyrri Offline
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Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 106
Loc: Copenhagen, Denmark
 Quote:
Originally posted by c18cont:
I wonder if the Palatino can be superior to Pearl River....or others..

Palatino is made from components from around the world, by an old instrument maker, I think in shanghai...soundboard,case,strings,action...etc..all coming from somewhere else, and assembled at Palatino...

Short list of some Chinese pianos...:

Steigerman. Maddison, Taishan, Saganhaft, Brentwood, Pearl River, Strauss, Ritmuller, Kranach, Bach, Fandrich,Steck, Eavestaff....

John Cont [/b]
A month ago I made a list of Chinese piano manufacturers (not "house brands") - I am however not sure of from which of the 4 Shanghai factories Palatino comes from.. (Artfield, maybe..?)
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/10810.html#000000

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#200397 - 07/04/05 05:51 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
ellll Offline
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Registered: 07/02/05
Posts: 56
Loc: Kentucky
Indeed,

Thanks, Tyrri, for the update, sorry, that as a new poster I missed it...It does well to help me identify some of the factory locations, which seem to be "all over..." \:\)

John

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#200398 - 07/04/05 06:51 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Del Offline
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Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 5065
Loc: Olympia, Washington
 Quote:
Originally posted by kkohl:
We put a deposit on a Palatino piano today to lock in a sales price. We have until Sunday to make a final decision. The piano looks great and has a nice sound, but we can't find any information, ratings, or reviews on this new brand. What can anyone tell us? [/b]
To "lock in the price?" Is somebody implying that if you don't sign up by Sunday you might have to pay more? I've heard of this sales ploy being used with really high turnover products (like down at Uncle Joe's SuperDuper Used Cars) but on a piano????

Sigh.

Del
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#200399 - 07/04/05 06:54 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Del Offline
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Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 5065
Loc: Olympia, Washington
 Quote:
Originally posted by c18cont:

Short list of some Chinese pianos...:

Steigerman. Maddison, Taishan, Saganhaft, Brentwood, Pearl River, Strauss, Ritmuller, Kranach, Bach, Fandrich, Steck, Eavestaff....

John Cont [/b]
Make that "Fandrich & Sons" if you don't mind. We're working on the new Fandrich grand piano and it won't be made in China. Fandrich & Sons and Fandrich Piano Co. are two different organizations.

Del
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#200400 - 07/04/05 08:22 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
George K Offline
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Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 999
Loc: The Midwest
 Quote:
Originally posted by Del:
We're working on the new Fandrich grand piano and it won't be made in China.
Tell me more!
Tell me more!
Tell me more!
Tell me more!
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#200401 - 07/04/05 02:52 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
ellll Offline
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Registered: 07/02/05
Posts: 56
Loc: Kentucky
Thanks again, Del,

For info on the new instrument...I have it bookmarked.

John Cont

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#200402 - 07/05/05 03:17 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
JRoss1461 Offline
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Registered: 04/24/04
Posts: 91
Loc: Wisconsin
KKohl, Did you buy the Piano? Pictures please.

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#200403 - 07/05/05 04:08 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Norbert Offline
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Registered: 07/03/01
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Loc: Surrey, B.C.
Anybody saying anything *good* about Chinese pianos who now carries them himself, now stands a distinct chance of having his posts pulled.

For *advertising*......

Of course the Chinese may one day decide to buy this website.

Perhaps at that time, we will have *freedom of speech* in this country once again..... \:D

norbert
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#200404 - 10/16/06 12:13 AM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Grayson73 Offline
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Registered: 10/07/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Potomac, MD
Any updates on these a year later? Let's turn this into the official Palatino Owners thread \:\)

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#200405 - 10/16/06 04:43 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Roy123 Offline
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Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 1694
Loc: Massachusetts
I wandered past a Palatino vertical when exiting a piano store, and played it for all of 20 seconds. My initial impression was quite positive given its very low price.

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#200406 - 10/18/06 01:07 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
byebye Offline
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Registered: 02/18/03
Posts: 1426
Here is John Cordogan's take on the Palatino:

http://www.cordogans.com/palatino.htm

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#200407 - 10/06/07 02:09 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
pianoguru Offline
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Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 1
Loc: Dallas Texas
Regarding Palatino upright pianos.......they are among the best uprights for the price around......like em better than Pearl River, Hamilton, and others priced in a similar manner. I like the bright bold sound of them.....I also like the action on them,.....solid...........hope this helps...........
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#200408 - 10/06/07 02:50 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Norbert Offline
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To my knowldege, Palatinos are built by a number of different makers in China with even Hailun chipping in some parts or components.

Norbert
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#200409 - 10/06/07 03:08 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Albanypark38:
kkohl

If it looks like a piano and sounds like a piano, then it is a piano. If you like the sound and the finish and the service you get form the dealer, then do not hesitate. [/b]
I wouldn't be so hasty.

It matter whether or not it will look and sound like a piano in 10 years...20 years.

Durability is a major factor to consider when buying a piano.

Pass on this one until you've got more information. The "sale" price will likely still be available.
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#200410 - 10/06/07 03:41 PM Re: Palatino brand uprights
Norbert Offline
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 Quote:
If it looks like a piano and sounds like a piano, then it is a piano. If you like the sound and the finish and the service you get form the dealer, then do not hesitate.
Agreed.

Here's another one:

 Quote:
"If it looks like a piano and still sounds like one - but not nearly as good as when new - then it is a piano."
Interesting who one could all pack possibly into that kind of category.....

Norbert \:o
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