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#1945397 - 08/19/12 09:53 AM Lower pitch in one ear
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My dog barked in my ear and i now hear all tones 3 cent lower in my right ear. It makes my piano sound like [censored]. The dog barked in my ear 5 days ago and it hasent still faded away. Will i have this problem the rest of my life? If so im gonna get depressed.

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#1945402 - 08/19/12 09:58 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Yes, this is a common affliction for pianists. Don't even bother asking a doctor.
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#1945403 - 08/19/12 09:59 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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that dosent make any sense, so more pianists get barked in the ear than normal people? haha


Edited by Lord Blackmourne (08/19/12 10:02 AM)

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#1945415 - 08/19/12 10:22 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Well, at least you're playing the piano and not conducting a choir and trying to get all of them to sing perfectly in tune!!

Originally Posted By: Lord Blackmourne
that dosent make any sense, so more pianists get barked in the ear than normal people? haha


Actually, I think so.

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#1945429 - 08/19/12 10:50 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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#1945501 - 08/19/12 12:45 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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when you say three cents lower , what does this equate to in semi-tones, for instance if it was a minor third lower it may help with harmony..... or you could hold your dogs mouth against your other ear whilst feeding your dogs dinner to a cat it doesnt like and just wait for it to bark and even up the unequal temperament?
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#1945507 - 08/19/12 12:54 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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0.03 semitones

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#1945509 - 08/19/12 12:58 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Originally Posted By: Lord Blackmourne
0.03 semitones


not much use for western music then. I would stick to Indian or possibly Chinese, failing that, cultivate your enjoyment for out of tune pianos. (Only you will hear them correctly pictched)

Or listen to programs like the X factor where all will suddenly sound well. For once. lol.
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#1945516 - 08/19/12 01:05 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Proof, then, that his bark might indeed be worse than his bite, at least for a musician!
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#1945521 - 08/19/12 01:06 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: Lord Blackmourne
0.03 semitones


not much use for western music then. I would stick to Indian or possibly Chinese, failing that, cultivate your enjoyment for out of tune pianos. (Only you will hear them correctly pictched)

Or listen to programs like the X factor where all will suddenly sound well. For once. lol.


That's not a good idea I think laugh I have perfect hearing in one ear so if i tuned the piano up it would sound bad in that ear. I really hope it will go away in the upcoming weeks.

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#1945548 - 08/19/12 01:41 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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I have no idea if it will go away or not. Please keep us posted. In the meantime, would you consider wearing an ear plug in one ear?

In Oliver Sacks book on music (can't remember the title) I do recall him writing about at least one person whose pitch did change in one or both ears. Can't remember if it returned to normal or not. Or, it might have been only certain pitches were off to the ear.

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#1945558 - 08/19/12 02:00 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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yeah I think i might buy some really good earplug and play with one ear. Im really happy i didnt get tinnitus though. That seems even more awful.


Edited by Lord Blackmourne (08/19/12 02:00 PM)

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#1945697 - 08/19/12 06:27 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Not to belittle a potentially annoying condition, but this thread is serious right? I've never heard of such a thing. crazy
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#1945717 - 08/19/12 06:59 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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#1945745 - 08/19/12 07:49 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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My amateur diagnosis - based on previous experience - is that there is some sort of super slight nerve compression going on and it will probably go away during the overnight sleep period.

Being super-sensitive in the hearing department can be an outright pain, especially in these type of real life situations/mishaps.....
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#1945772 - 08/19/12 08:41 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Originally Posted By: Lord Blackmourne
My dog barked in my ear and i now hear all tones 3 cent lower in my right ear. It makes my piano sound like [censored]. The dog barked in my ear 5 days ago and it hasent still faded away. Will i have this problem the rest of my life? If so im gonna get depressed.



Sure - this usually is a lifelong condition. The only possible cure is to have the mangy hound bark loudly in your OTHER ear.....or if you are really concerned about this, go see an Otolaryngologist.
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#1945785 - 08/19/12 08:59 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Richter said his sense of pitch changed late in life, but it was in both ears. And he said it happened to Prokofiev, too, IIRC. Maybe playing the piano loudly for years does something untoward....

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#1945789 - 08/19/12 09:06 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Make an appointment to see an audiologist.
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#1945815 - 08/19/12 09:45 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Piano*Dad]
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I noticed, BTW.
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#1945819 - 08/19/12 09:58 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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I must watch out that my bird (who usually sits on my shoulder) doesn't scream into my ear! eek
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#1945974 - 08/20/12 08:04 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: ChopinAddict]
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Edited by Thrill Science (08/20/12 08:04 AM)
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#1946009 - 08/20/12 09:28 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Some good news. Now my right ear only hear 0.01 semitones/ 1 cent lower. I can barley hear any difference now.

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#2001562 - 12/19/12 04:59 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Apparently it took you only 1 day to recover your hearing.... I hope it will be the same with me. Because what I feared above just happened to me. My bird screamed into my ear as loud as he could while sitting on my shoulder and I have been hearing a ringing for hours now and I also feel mild pain. I don't think the pain is strong enough to assume that the eardrum has been damaged, but I am worried (I am not feeling well right now and this just adds to it). I hope I am well enough to go to my doc tomorrow... mad cursing
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#2001580 - 12/19/12 06:25 AM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Well, at least you're playing the piano and not conducting a choir and trying to get all of them to sing perfectly in tune!!


Actually, I think that must be what happened: Lord Blackmourne was conducting a dog choir!

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#2001769 - 12/19/12 03:08 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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Could be impacted ear wax.

Some upper string string players (violin and viola) say their intonation improves when they wear an ear plug loosely in the left ear--that there is degree of fatigue and inaccuracy in that ear. Not sure how this relates, but seems worth mentioning.

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#2003226 - 12/22/12 07:30 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Lord Blackmourne]
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I heard that people can't tell the difference in tone if the difference is less than 10 cents. Then again, the difference between half notes is 50 cents, and I'm no expert.

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#2003495 - 12/23/12 12:39 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Bashimatsu]
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Make it a dollar, and you've got a deal. grin

BTW I've never come across this "cents" terminology in all my 200 years. smile

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#2003528 - 12/23/12 02:18 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Mark_C]
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Make it a dollar, and you've got a deal. grin

BTW I've never come across this "cents" terminology in all my 200 years. smile


That's most likely because you aren't in possession of an owners manual for an electronic instrument.
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#2004732 - 12/26/12 10:02 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Mark_C]
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Make it a dollar, and you've got a deal. grin

BTW I've never come across this "cents" terminology in all my 200 years. smile


Or (nearly equivalent to the previous poster) you never tune pianos.
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#2004948 - 12/27/12 01:11 PM Re: Lower pitch in one ear [Re: Bashimatsu]
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Originally Posted By: Bashimatsu
I heard that people can't tell the difference in tone if the difference is less than 10 cents. Then again, the difference between half notes is 50 cents, and I'm no expert.
Actually, it's 100 cents per semitone, so a whole step is 200 cents. There's more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cent_%28music%29

I just listened to the samples on the Wikipedia page linked above. I wonder if the OP can actually hear a difference of 3 cents much less 1, I couldn't hear a difference of 1 cent and wasn't sure if I could hear a difference of 6 cents. If a difference of 6 cents was barely perceptible, is this really a big deal? However, since the OP is a piano tuner perhaps the tech forum is a more appropriate place for this post. I'm sure you'd get some sympathy there.

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