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#2005404 - 12/28/12 10:13 AM Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22
David Benjamin Offline
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Hello everyone,

I'm here because I need to ask you whether I'm ready for this wonderful piece of music or not.

I can play:

1. Fantasie Impromptu (op. 66)
2. The most parts of Polonaise in A flat major “heroic” Op 53 (lost interest at some point but I will continue soon)

What do you think?

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#2005406 - 12/28/12 10:16 AM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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Try it out for yourself! The best judge would be yourself! smile

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#2005409 - 12/28/12 10:19 AM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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I'm guessing no. Technically, I don't have enough information to decide except that you think you have provided enough information to decide, so I'm still at no.
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#2005415 - 12/28/12 10:25 AM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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Tho' I might add that the Grande Polonaise op. 22 is on a completely different level from the pieces you can play..

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#2005419 - 12/28/12 10:30 AM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: Gould]
David Benjamin Offline
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Originally Posted By: Gould
Tho' I might add that the Grande Polonaise op. 22 is on a completely different level from the pieces you can play..


It's more difficult? The Polonaise op. 53 is ranked grade ARCT (Canada’s grading system). Where would you rank the Grande Polonaise?


Edited by David Benjamin (12/28/12 10:37 AM)

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#2005428 - 12/28/12 10:39 AM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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Originally Posted By: David Benjamin
Originally Posted By: Gould
Tho' I might add that the Grande Polonaise op. 22 is on a completely different level from the pieces you can play..


It's more difficult? The Polonaise op. 53 is ranked grade ARCT (Canada’s grading system). Where would you rank the Grande Polonaise?


Yes of course!

It's ranked alongside Chopin's 2nd and 3rd sonatas according to Trinity and ABRSM way up in the FRSM/FTCL levels.

But ranks will be ranks, the best judge to determine it's level would be yourself! Hop onto IMSLP and print out the score to read through and then decide for yourself. smile

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#2005542 - 12/28/12 01:07 PM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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Be aware that the FRSM/FTCTL also includes the adante spianato which is no piece of cake

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#2005544 - 12/28/12 01:11 PM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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No, you are not ready.
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#2005559 - 12/28/12 01:24 PM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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We can't answer the question for you; only you can decide after you attempt the piece whether or not you will be able to manage it, and to what degree of polish.

That you say you can play the Fantaisie-Impromptu and "most parts" of the Op 53 doesn't really tell us much, does it? It says nothing about your "learning curve" nor how well you can play the one and "the parts" of the other.

The fact that you already tackled one of the great Polonaises and "lost interest" does not bode well, however. This will take a long-term commitment, and it doesn't sound - from what little you've told us - that long-term interest will necessarily apply in this case, either.

All I can say is : try and find out for yourself.

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#2005636 - 12/28/12 03:17 PM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
David Benjamin Offline
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I tried for one hour now and I can play the first 8 bars of the meno mosso part. Of course not 100% perfect (1 or 2 mistakes per try), but with a speed similar to this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYiHZH_FV38&list=PL0F9A519967C67977).
I find it not very difficult until now, but the harder parts are yet to come I guess.

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#2005641 - 12/28/12 03:19 PM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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I think we have our full answer now. grin

You can sort of play the 'easy parts.' You'll probably get way stuck on most if not all of the 'hard parts,' which is most of the piece.

But that needn't stop you from trying to play what you can from it.

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#2005733 - 12/28/12 07:07 PM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
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'the most parts of polonaise...' well, probably 'mos' of op.22 parts will go, but some will never, and that's most pianists' problem.
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#2005756 - 12/28/12 07:56 PM Re: Chopin Grande Polonaise op. 22 [Re: David Benjamin]
David Benjamin Offline
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Thanks for all your answers. smile
I'm making pretty good progress so far and I guess I'll just continue with this until I get stuck somewhere. I just cant stop. It's so much fun to play this piece. It's amazing.

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