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#2007812 - 01/02/13 05:42 AM
Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Registered: 10/01/08
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Loc: Mexico
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Hi everyone and Happy New Year!!!! I been waiting for this restoration to come, but i have never seen this kind of piano before, from the case, double overstrung and odd action, is gonna be interesting. What is has to be done? New polyester finish, re-stringing, and action restoration. It have been some how altered from strings to action so what I see on the piano is not a guide or the original setup. I have to figure out the appropriate scale (scaling software or any company since this will be my fist re-scaling i need help) Also i need a reference of the action to get the new felts the appropriate thickness for it. I don't even worry about calibration so far. lol Why is the felt on the jack instead on the regulation button, wippens had a bouncing heel whit a support felt in between. What is missing on the shank just where the drop screw usually goes. Not even the hammers are from the same set.
I know!!! to many questions, but i want to know your thoughts By the way not a chance to dispose or sawzall the piano (yet), or to install new action parts unless are the same as the original, only cleaning and re-felt, they want to keep it original as possible. Those are the pictures please look at them please comment at the picture if possible a More pictures any comment or advice is appreciate Thanks a lot.
Edited by Pianos & Pianos Mexico (01/02/13 05:45 AM)
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#2007875 - 01/02/13 09:37 AM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Looks like a Diagonal Grand Piano.
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#2007915 - 01/02/13 11:39 AM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Registered: 09/09/11
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I once restored a piano like that, but it was made by Seiler before the WW2. It was called "Bell piano" because of the form. Glock flügel in German.
Edited by pianolive (01/02/13 11:40 AM)
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#2007936 - 01/02/13 12:10 PM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Registered: 03/14/08
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Hello, good luck with the action, if the tone is interesting, a new action could be installed (if dimensions are usual)
Interesting, Idont understand that round marks in the leather.
the drop is regulated at the same time that let off ?
New polyester seem to be expensive for such instrument (unless you have access to some third party workshop that does the job for a low price)
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#2007978 - 01/02/13 01:27 PM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Registered: 10/01/08
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Hi
i just notice that the action was made by Strauch Bros in New York, the name is stamped on the side of the key, i found an add on the MBSI journal Music Trade Review - Music Industry Magazine 1908, but i haven't found not a single picture or drawing of the action yet.
Round marks on the leather? you mean in the hammer shank below the center pin? thats what i try to figure out actually look´s like it had been cut off some material and was dowel inserted or something else i don´t know
I applying the black polyester myself, looks more time consuming and expensive, but I found it easer since you can apply a ticker layer and is sand ready within one hour, easy to build a thick finish also is faster since you have only 20 min to apply the mixture it gels so fast that keeps you moving no time for a break, the sanding is really nice, now the harder part is to polish it to a high gloss, without sanding scratches.
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#2008014 - 01/02/13 02:42 PM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Pierce Piano Atlas lists a little information on Franz Meyer pianos. Established in 1888. Discontinued in 1912. Do you know the age? If not, post a serial number, as there are some listed in the Atlas.
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#2009416 - 01/05/13 11:57 AM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Loc: Mexico
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Hi Dan.
The plate has to come out, this piano had previous work done on it, I don´t know how long ago the piano was miss fix in several areas, bass string have been poorly made also they use a insulated copper the one is use to wind electrical motors, I can´t say that all the strings have the right dimensions this is where i need assist on re-scaling the piano hope that someone here had done before, also the first plain wire strings are dead i assume a problem of the bridge maybe has come loose.
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#2009606 - 01/05/13 06:18 PM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Registered: 02/01/09
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Loc: PA
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By the way not a chance to dispose or sawzall the piano (yet), or to install new action parts unless are the same as the original, only cleaning and re-felt, they want to keep it original as possible. They would not have been using polyester finishes when this piano was new. You may want to consider using a finish that was in use at the time of manufacture, if you want to try to keep the piano as original as possible.
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#2009746 - 01/05/13 10:20 PM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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Registered: 09/11/06
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Loc: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
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Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts My thoughts would be to turn the job down. It would be far too expensive to do a major rebuilding. The outcome, musically and play-ability wise, would not warrant all that work and investment. If a client is willing to pay, he is throwing away his money; if you are rebuilding with hopes to sell the instrument, you will never re-coup your cost. Interesting piano maybe, but very far gone. There are better candidates out there for one's time and labor.
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#2009753 - 01/05/13 10:30 PM
Re: Restoration project coming up what are you're thoughts
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It is certainly not a piano that I would tackle without a lot of experience. There are reasons why unusual piano configurations died out, and those reasons become evident when you try to work on them.
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