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#2006093 - 12/29/12 03:52 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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I think that the manufacturers will all pool their resources to produce slab and console versions of a DP that REALLY feels and sounds like a very nice upright AP, using 1TB of memory. They will sell it for a little less than a REALLY nice upright AP, since it will cost considerably less to make.

Then for next year, they'll do the same in a more refined grand-style cabinet, with enough power to fill a concert hall.

Oh, and Rupert Murdoch will become a force for good, hunger around the globe will be eliminated, and there will be a permanent solution to the woes in the Middle-East.

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#2006178 - 12/29/12 06:33 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: 10fingers]
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Originally Posted By: 10fingers
I think that the manufacturers will all pool their resources to produce slab and console versions of a DP that REALLY feels and sounds like a very nice upright AP, using 1TB of memory. They will sell it for a little less than a REALLY nice upright AP, since it will cost considerably less to make.

Then for next year, they'll do the same in a more refined grand-style cabinet, with enough power to fill a concert hall.

Oh, and hunger around the globe will be eliminated, and there will be a permanent solution to the woes in the Middle-East.


Easy. No problem. Entirely realistic aspirations.

Originally Posted By: 10fingers
and Rupert Murdoch will become a force for good


Deluded! Never gonna happen. But at least he'll be dead soon.
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#2006246 - 12/29/12 08:47 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: voxpops]
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Originally Posted By: voxpops

A lot of people (including me) would like to see an SV-2 with the Kronos APs and EPs, but I wonder whether the market is big enough for Korg to venture further down that somewhat idiosyncratic path.



This board exists as a working preproduction sample and has for some time. Why hasn't it appeared ? $$$ constraints ...they chose the wide market appeal of the Krome over the rather more limited target market of the SV-1. It could be easily put into production however.
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#2006251 - 12/29/12 09:00 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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Hmmm...in order of importance:

Red... check!
Decent EPs... check!
Decent organ... check!
Flaky keyboard action... check!



Well, I still haven't bitten the bullet on the Electro 4 yet, so perhaps I can wait a few more weeks to see if the SV-2 materialises at NAMM?

James
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#2006576 - 12/30/12 02:17 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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lol James!
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#2006606 - 12/30/12 03:30 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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Nord Stage 2 EX (more memory)
Yamaha updated CP series/AvantGrand sound update
Roland releasing new V-Piano related products/sounds
Kawai updating MP10/MP6
U.S. Senate actually passing a budget and Obama cutting the deficit in half.

All WISHFUL thinking. I know. smile

On a serious note, I think the general economic stagnation will keep the manufacturers conservative and boring. At least we won't have surprises! grin
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#2007667 - 01/01/13 08:46 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: moleskincrusher]
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Originally Posted By: moleskincrusher
I have no special knowledge, but I suspect we won't see many new piano products at NAMM 2013 but will have to wait for Frankfurt, where they can make maybe a bigger international splash.


what show is going on at frankfurt and when will it be?
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#2007765 - 01/02/13 01:04 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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They mean Frankfurt Musikmesse which is an international music fair that will take place in Frankfurt am Mein between 10th and 13th of April 2013

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#2007807 - 01/02/13 05:19 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: PianoZac]
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Originally Posted By: PianoZac
Nord Stage 2 EX (more memory)
Yamaha updated CP series/AvantGrand sound update
Roland releasing new V-Piano related products/sounds
Kawai updating MP10/MP6
U.S. Senate actually passing a budget and Obama cutting the deficit in half.

All WISHFUL thinking. I know. smile

On a serious note, I think the general economic stagnation will keep the manufacturers conservative and boring. At least we won't have surprises! grin


Only 1 on your list is actually a going to happen wink
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#2007821 - 01/02/13 06:34 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: Dr Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Dr Popper
Originally Posted By: PianoZac
Nord Stage 2 EX (more memory)
Yamaha updated CP series/AvantGrand sound update
Roland releasing new V-Piano related products/sounds
Kawai updating MP10/MP6
U.S. Senate actually passing a budget and Obama cutting the deficit in half.

All WISHFUL thinking. I know. smile

On a serious note, I think the general economic stagnation will keep the manufacturers conservative and boring. At least we won't have surprises! grin


Only 1 on your list is actually a going to happen wink


I'm really reaching here, but say Yamaha steps their game up for their 125th anniversary, would they give a dramatic downloadable software update to the current CP line? Or perhaps releasing actual new keyboards?
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#2007857 - 01/02/13 08:59 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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I don't think you get much for free from Yamaha wink
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#2007861 - 01/02/13 09:00 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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It's the Kawai update....that is going to happen I reckon.
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#2007878 - 01/02/13 09:45 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
Kawai James Offline
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Nah, he was referring to the US Senate passing the budget to prevent the 'Fiscal Cliff'...well, for two more months at least. By which time, we'll all be speculating about what new instruments will be announced at Frankfurt Musikmesse...

James
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#2007880 - 01/02/13 09:53 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: EssBrace]
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Originally Posted By: EssBrace
It's the Kawai update....that is going to happen I reckon.


As much as I would love to see an MP11 with the new GF action and an MP7 with the ES7 specs plus what the MP6 already has, I don't think it's going to happen this NAMM. It seems that Dr. Popper is eluding to an updated CP series (revamped keyboards), not free user downloadable software updates. Of course those are my words and not his. If that happens I really hope that Yamaha can up the specs on the CP5's acoustic pianos and magically reduce the weight and footprint of the instrument as a whole. If that happens I think I may repurchase a CP series stage piano.
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#2007904 - 01/02/13 11:11 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: Rhodie73]
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Originally Posted By: Rhodie73
I'm really reaching here, but say Yamaha steps their game up for their 125th anniversary, would they give a dramatic downloadable software update to the current CP line?


I'm completely on-board with that idea, as long as they apply it to the CP33, which, in some markets, is still considered part of the current CP line.

Heck, I'm even open to paying a nominal fee for new sounds. I certainly didn't pay a Nord-like premium price when I bought the 33, so I wouldn't expect them to be free.


Edited by dje31 (01/02/13 11:12 AM)
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#2008106 - 01/02/13 05:19 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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It seems Yamaha, Kawai, and Roland are all due for some sort of updates as many of their stage pianos seem to be about three years old now. I am hoping Nord updates the memory on their models too. 500mb for pianos is nothing when some of their samples such as the new Italian Grand are 182.1mb.
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#2008169 - 01/02/13 07:24 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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A little off topic.. I'm out in so cal and wasn't able to find a guest pass. Do you guys think 2013 namm would be worth paying $100 to get into? I've never been to the show but only seen videos.


Edited by Gatsbee13 (01/02/13 07:57 PM)

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#2008171 - 01/02/13 07:28 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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It's not generally open to the public, so unless you work in the music industry, you probably can't get in.
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#2008179 - 01/02/13 07:44 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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yes.. i am aware of that.. but when i say pay $100, you have to read between the lines. smile

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#2008180 - 01/02/13 07:48 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: Gatsbee13]
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Originally Posted By: Gatsbee13
yes.. i am aware of that.. but when i say pay $100, you have to read between the lines. smile


If you live locally to the event, I'd give it a go. Will be at least as entertaining as a lot of gigs you might pay for, and you'll probably meet some renowned musicians there too. Plus all the new products. I wouldn't count on getting in though. You'd have to scout the place and look for the most suspect door guy... You might find that you are supposed to walk around in there with a lanyard around your neck with your pass credentials on it though. It would probably be easy to get kicked out.

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#2008186 - 01/02/13 08:01 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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there are people selling badges for $100 on craigslist.. they register you with your name and email.. if one were to do such a thing, they probably wouldnt get kicked out..

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#2008337 - 01/03/13 03:45 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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is the casio px150/350 the latest incarnation of their digital pianos? how old are they? will there be a successor this year at namm? i was wondering should i wait it out.
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#2008348 - 01/03/13 04:41 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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[non-contributory silliness]

re: gaining entry, watch some Yes Men clips - they're the experts. smile I love this one where they impersonated the Chamber of Commerce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flsNwClU1dI#t=2m38s (the action is at 2:38)

Greg.

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#2008360 - 01/03/13 05:25 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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We went to the CES show in Vegas one year. Same type of thing. Apply online. Just make up a factitious business/company name, pay the entry fee and they send the pass. It is that simple... At least it was for CES. People knew we had no company affiliation but they didn't seem to care. :-)
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#2008416 - 01/03/13 08:38 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: adak]
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Originally Posted By: adak
is the casio px150/350 the latest incarnation of their digital pianos? how old are they? will there be a successor this year at namm? i was wondering should i wait it out.


They are the latest and have only been out for a few months.
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#2008424 - 01/03/13 08:58 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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Hey, happy birthday Deffie!
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#2008464 - 01/03/13 10:29 AM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: Deffie]
adak Offline
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Originally Posted By: Deffie
Originally Posted By: adak
is the casio px150/350 the latest incarnation of their digital pianos? how old are they? will there be a successor this year at namm? i was wondering should i wait it out.


They are the latest and have only been out for a few months.


so does casio usually release new pianos at namm? will there be a px-160?
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#2008573 - 01/03/13 02:28 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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If any I would tend to think casio would release a successor to the px-3 since it is based on the px-330.

The one to watch is Korg, this is their 50th anniversary as a company. Maybe an SV2? There are also rumors of a couple of new Korg analog synths floating around the internet
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#2008581 - 01/03/13 02:37 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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I predict ... that this topic will be raised every year in advance of the winter NAMM show. And each time people will respond with a description of what they want, rather than what will appear at NAMM.

Fair enough. No one here has any means to know what will transpire at NAMM. The manufacturers keep their product plans quite secret. Unless someone here works for one of those firms, he won't have any information. If he does, he'll be compelled to keep it secret.

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#2008590 - 01/03/13 02:49 PM Re: NAMM 2013: What are your stage piano predictions?? [Re: thercman]
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MacMacMac, Don't be a spoilsport! LOL. Alas, I fear that your prediction is the most accurate one this thread has seen. smile Maybe in the future it should have the subject heading "NAMM Wishes" instead of "NAMM Predictions"
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