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#2008657 - 01/03/13 05:34 PM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld
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The monthly depository of compositions from PianoWorld members!

JANUARY

Happy new year everyone!

This is where we, the pianoworld members and composers offer our compositions free of charge to the rest of the pianoworld members!

Compositions are copyrighted at all times to their respectful owners.

At any time one can delete their compositions in this thread. Though this is not nice, there might be reasons to do so. However, be aware that after some time has passed you can NOT edit your post, in which case you'll need to delete the file from the servers.

If you have troubles uploading, finding webspace, offering or htmling, just let me know. I'm only a PM away, or an email away. It's very easy to get a hold of me!

And if you want, offer your insights on your own works. Offer the score, or the recording. Offer both, or offer your ideas as well. Write as much as you'd like, or as little. Share with us your thoughts about your own works... and when you're done with that, share your thoughts and your feedback about the works of others. Offer and receive!

Finally... enjoy...
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#2008661 - 01/03/13 05:41 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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And let's start off with one of Steve's works!

Steve Chandler wrote his work for solo piano titled 'Luminous' and he's offering it to us.

The recording can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/pantonality
and the score can be found here: http://www.nikolas-sideris.com/EMF/Luminous.pdf

He mentioned that this work is the opposite of his previous piece (in the December thread) titled 'Elegy'. I'd agree that this is a very positive take on things!
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#2008784 - 01/03/13 11:28 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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I assume for me to participate in this thread is nearly pointless? I already posted my first and only work here in the CL. frown

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#2008803 - 01/04/13 12:35 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Haha!

Here are your options:

a. Post the work here (even if you've already posted it).
b. Allow me to do that for you. But then you wouldn't be able to say anything about your work... frown
c. Don't post the work but comment on the works of others.
d. Leave the thread in shame.
e. Post a new work!

All of the above, except (d) are lovely options and none is too wrong or too right!

In other words: Why not? As long as you're nice (and you're extra nice) just post anything you like, comment, offer feedback, provide the background of your work... and share the love for composing and music! ^_^
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#2008804 - 01/04/13 12:39 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
Haha!

Here are your options:

a. Post the work here (even if you've already posted it).
b. Allow me to do that for you. But then you wouldn't be able to say anything about your work... frown
c. Don't post the work but comment on the works of others.
d. Leave the thread in shame.
e. Post a new work!

All of the above, except (d) are lovely options and none is too wrong or too right!

In other words: Why not? As long as you're nice (and you're extra nice) just post anything you like, comment, offer feedback, provide the background of your work... and share the love for composing and music! ^_^


I think this is a really great idea and it's totally cool what you're doing here! I just wish more people on PW composed. The Composer's Lounge always feels so lonely.

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#2008808 - 01/04/13 12:51 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWor [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: Joel_W
I just wish more people on PW composed. The Composer's Lounge always feels so lonely.
I have a different take. It doesn't feel lonely to me because I imagine all these people who compose popping in from time to time, posting a work, making a comment. They're not hanging out here all the time because they're busy composing! My internet connection is pretty dodgy, and sometimes I can't even listen to recordings at all, but I still pop over here when I have time, and see what's going on. I haven't posted any of my own works yet - maybe one day I'll get my technological act together. smile
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#2008814 - 01/04/13 01:19 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWor [Re: Nikolas]
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While I agree with curra, I will also mention that in my opinion we composers (my included of course) suffer from a sort of autism: We are ashamed to show our works, we feel bad if we dare promote our works, and we try to hide our best work as if the world would end if we were better than the masters of classical music!

(This is why I started EMF... To battle my tendency to hide...)...
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#2008815 - 01/04/13 01:22 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWor [Re: Nikolas]
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
and we try to hide our best work as if the world would end if we were better than the masters of classical music!



What do you mean by this?

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#2008816 - 01/04/13 01:22 AM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: Joel_W
I just wish more people on PW composed. The Composer's Lounge always feels so lonely.

What is the saying? . . . "Be careful what you wish for."
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#2008896 - 01/04/13 09:10 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWor [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: Joel_W
Originally Posted By: Nikolas
and we try to hide our best work as if the world would end if we were better than the masters of classical music!



What do you mean by this?

I know exactly what he means. Composing is a very solitary activity. It's a lot of work to bring even a short piece into existence. By the time a piece is done I'm usually pretty tired of it, but still insecure about it (or parts of it). Then the thought enters the mind, "What of people don't like it?"

I never consider the possibility of being better than any of the masters. That never enters my mind, because I see inadequacies in my own capabilities. My memory could be better. If I play something I like I struggle to reproduce it and usually have considered a bunch of other possibilities by the time I do. I'm too aware of my shortcomings to think I might approach the quality of the masters.

Finally, I think back to my student days when I wrote in a more modern style. I'm well aware that many will perceive my work as conservative, but when you've been composing for 4 decades you don't do it to please others. If I don't enjoy listening to my own work I won't expect anyone else to. Yet I don't want to be completely irrelevant so I have developed a style that tries to balance my need to enjoy the listening experience with my interest in unique harmonic combinations.

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#2008966 - 01/04/13 01:46 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWor [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Just listened to both "Elegy" and "Luminous", Steve -- IMO, they are, along with "Tender7", your best solo piano compositions. Just curious -- did you yourself post the recordings of these pieces, or is it done via some digital method? I suspect the latter, because it is "mistake-free", but also lacks the expressive character that I think would enhance the impact in both pieces. Thanks for sharing these!

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#2009087 - 01/04/13 06:21 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWor [Re: Tim Adrianson]
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Originally Posted By: Tim Adrianson
Just listened to both "Elegy" and "Luminous", Steve -- IMO, they are, along with "Tender7", your best solo piano compositions. Just curious -- did you yourself post the recordings of these pieces, or is it done via some digital method? I suspect the latter, because it is "mistake-free", but also lacks the expressive character that I think would enhance the impact in both pieces. Thanks for sharing these!

Tim, thank you, coming from you that means a lot. One of the things I had to come to terms with (along time ago) was that I simply don't have the ability necessary to be a very capable pianist. I learn pieces too slowly and I make mistakes (which usually causes the wheels to come off the wagon). But, I love composing and I think I've gotten pretty good at it. In order to get a sense of what my pieces really sound like I had to develop a technique to produce a decent sounding recording. For Luminous I played all the parts into the computer (albeit about half tempo). It is obviously a midi recording in that a computer played samples using midi. I did feel it necessary to edit the performance which took out some (but not all) of the nuance. The world will never (if it has any sense) pay to see me perform these or any other of my pieces.

I do appreciate that you enjoyed them. Elegy and Luminous were conceived to be two sides of the same coin.

Thanks,

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#2009273 - 01/05/13 03:12 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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A bit of fun this month, but then I don't take myself seriously at the best of times. I found an old tape recording of me at about twenty. Many pieces on it actually had scores, albeit even rougher than my last ones, still lying around the house.

I remember this one had a story. We had a really rough neighbour, but a good sort, and Mum, Dad and I used to get on the drink with him until three in the morning. Dad had a tin on the kitchen cupboard containing cigars, and after the consumption of half a flagon of local sherry, our neighbour teetered over, helped himself to a large one and demanded I play the piano. This was a musical description of our neighbour. Alas, everyone is now long gone, but how well music captures the spirit of past good times - much better than a photograph.

Cigar Tin Stomp

Cigar Tin Stomp page 1

Cigar Tin Stomp page 2

Cigar Tin Stomp page 3


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#2009278 - 01/05/13 04:04 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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I like "Luminous", Steve. How remarkably spontaneous and bright it sounds, almost as if you had looked out the window on a fine morning, sat down and played it on the spot. The effect is delightfully in contrast with your actual method of creation. Don't know how you do that.
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#2009403 - 01/05/13 11:33 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Ted,

Your Cigar Tin Stomp took me back to my youth when we'd see cartoons with the tin pan alley piano playing. Very cool and nicely done! How did you get the piano to sound just like it would in an old recording?

Glad you liked Luminous, you're right it was anything but a spontaneous creation, but I'm glad it sounds like one. I don't know how I do it either. Thanks.

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#2009427 - 01/05/13 12:09 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Ted,

Your Cigar Tin is marvelous. I'm not as old as Steve, but I think neither Steve is THAT old! wink I still, however, get the same vibes as he did from your piece. Brilliant.

And as a side note I just love the way your scores look. It's fabulous to look at them and enjoy your handwriting and thoughts, and deleted parts and everything.

Here's the score combined into a single PDF file:

http://www.musica-ferrum.com/documents/The%20Cigar%20Tin.pdf
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#2009517 - 01/05/13 03:37 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Thanks for listening, Nikolas and Steve. It was actually the other way around, Steve. The tape was awful and I had to make the sound at least bearable. I am sixty-five. For various reasons the recording cannot be earlier than 1967 or later than 1971 but although I remember the event very clearly its exact date escapes me.

All my scores look ratty because I hate the act of writing music. I used to get progressively worse tempered from start to finish and it shows. Thanks for combining them Nikolas, it makes it easier for people.
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#2009833 - 01/06/13 04:40 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Ted]
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Ted Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed listening to your Tin Stomp. This is music that´s make everyone happy :-)
Also agree fully on your comments about Steve´s Luminous. Beautiful piece!

My contribution is a jazz waltz I have been working on for quite some time. Finally got the pieces together:
Jazz Waltz
And here´s how the score look like when recording the piece into a trial version of Sibelius. Unfortunately I have very limited knowledge about scores so I am not able to make the corrections required:
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#2009835 - 01/06/13 04:56 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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Sounds great. Where's the rest of the trio!? wink

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#2009868 - 01/06/13 07:39 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: JoelW]
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Thanks. The flute and bass players are lurking somewhere in the Casio bank, I believe wink

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#2009876 - 01/06/13 08:11 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Don't forget the drums! I hear the chick of the high hat.. and brushwork on the snare. (perhaps because I am a drummer myself)

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#2010041 - 01/06/13 02:13 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Steve:

Luminous is really pretty. Wish I could add more but don't know enough yet! Very nice to listen too. May have to listen a few times more!
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#2010046 - 01/06/13 02:18 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Ted:

Cigar Tin Stomp sounds like tons of fun to play! Just awesome! smile

Rune E: A very nice mellow tune. smile Something I'd like to eat to! LOL

Awesome songs you guys. smile
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#2010070 - 01/06/13 02:51 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Rune: Lovely stuff! And the score, while it's not clear, gives a very precise point on what's going on!

It's very catchy and, exactly because of the bass and the flute, it reminded me a bit of Claude Bolling... wink Perhaps you've heard of him?

In either way I hope that this week I'll be able to post on of my works for solo piano. And it's not a miniature like last month! smile
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#2010074 - 01/06/13 02:56 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Okay so this is my first to share (only my second written!) I'm sorry there is no music to accompany the score but I'm still having issues recording at the moment.

I think it sounds better than I expected! LOL Anyways hope you can enjoy a beginner's attempts. smile

Opus. No.2.
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#2010169 - 01/06/13 05:50 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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This is my take on the écossaise form. Though it is not in 2/4... nor is it dance-y... and I don't think it's very Scottish. I guess it's nothing like an écossaise. ha

http://musescore.com/joel_w/untitled


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#2010499 - 01/07/13 09:33 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: Joel_W
This is my take on the écossaise form. Though it is not in 2/4... nor is it dance-y... and I don't think it's very Scottish. I guess it's nothing like an écossaise. ha

http://musescore.com/joel_w/untitled

Joel you may think it's none of those things, but I thought it was dance-y, though perhaps not Scottish. It was delightful and should be longer, there's a lot you could do with this.

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#2010541 - 01/07/13 11:25 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Joel,

I agree with Steve. And it IS delightful.

I would, however, like to comment on the difficulty level of your work(s)... I think it's a tad more difficult that one would expect... :-/ But still it's a brilliant piece of music. (and there are a few tiny spots in the score that need correcting, if you want me to let you know...).
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#2010548 - 01/07/13 11:40 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Joel,

I agree with Steve. And it IS delightful.

I would, however, like to comment on the difficulty level of your work(s)... I think it's a tad more difficult that one would expect... :-/ But still it's a brilliant piece of music. (and there are a few tiny spots in the score that need correcting, if you want me to let you know...).


Thanks Steve and thanks Nikolas.

Nikolas, I would love advice.

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#2010583 - 01/07/13 01:02 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Great Joel,

I'm glad you're so open about this. Here goes:

1. Any clashing elements should be eliminated. Some slurs touch the notes, etc...
2. If you're unclear about the pedal, just let it be. Are you sure you want pedal in the half of bar 1 and then at bar 4 only? I bet most pianists would use a bit of sustain pedalling around the places of the big gaps (to bridge the space that is), and perhaps in other places as well.
3. The dynamics go between the two staves, not above (the dim. sign in bar 4).
4. The tempo markings and alterations always go above the two staves.
5. A dynamic marking at the end of a bar is a bit weird (the last p on bar 12). It's difficult to say exactly when it applies.
6. There appears to be missing a slur in the final bars. How you want these 16ths played?
7. But even more, there's a staccato dot in hand the last bars, but not all. Is this intentional or not?
8. Finally. The doppio movimento. Ok, I get what you mean and it makes sense, but somehow I think that 32nds would be a better choice. They would surely panic the pianist and righfully so. Right now you're cheating the eye a bit like this... wink

hope these comments help a bit.

Nikolas
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#2010594 - 01/07/13 01:18 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Great Joel,

I'm glad you're so open about this. Here goes:

1. Any clashing elements should be eliminated. Some slurs touch the notes, etc...
2. If you're unclear about the pedal, just let it be. Are you sure you want pedal in the half of bar 1 and then at bar 4 only? I bet most pianists would use a bit of sustain pedalling around the places of the big gaps (to bridge the space that is), and perhaps in other places as well.
3. The dynamics go between the two staves, not above (the dim. sign in bar 4).
4. The tempo markings and alterations always go above the two staves.
5. A dynamic marking at the end of a bar is a bit weird (the last p on bar 12). It's difficult to say exactly when it applies.
6. There appears to be missing a slur in the final bars. How you want these 16ths played?
7. But even more, there's a staccato dot in hand the last bars, but not all. Is this intentional or not?
8. Finally. The doppio movimento. Ok, I get what you mean and it makes sense, but somehow I think that 32nds would be a better choice. They would surely panic the pianist and righfully so. Right now you're cheating the eye a bit like this... wink

hope these comments help a bit.

Nikolas


Wow, this is great advice. I am a total newbie and I appreciate it a lot.

I feel as if I am not educated enough to be composing on (virtual) paper...

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#2010598 - 01/07/13 01:19 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: Joel_W
Wow, this is great advice. I am a total newbie and I appreciate it a lot.

I feel as if I am not educated enough to be composing on paper...
Glad to know that these comments are helpful.

And don't you EVER talk about educated enough and composing, etc... Just do as you please and we can help each other! I'm constantly asking for help from others you know! smile
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#2010600 - 01/07/13 01:22 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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And here we are with my own work.

It's a simple (composition wise) etude in G# minor. And yes it's tonal all the way! wink

www.nikolas-sideris.com/EMF/etude.mp3

www.nikolas-sideris.com/EMF/etude.pdf

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The recording is from a midi file. I don't have the time to study the work to a decent enough level, so this is what you get in this case... I have edited the midi file and added a better sound, but still it's too mechanical.

The work itself was composed around 17 years ago... It's one of my first complete works. This is (perhaps) why it's simple. And it also feels stolen in a way, since the main melody is very close to plenty of other works... Anyhow...

Hope you'll enjoy it.
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#2010769 - 01/07/13 05:41 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Rune: I have always wanted to play stuff like your waltz but I think a certain amount of conventional jazz background is necessary. I like several of your chord changes very much. For some odd reason they remind me of Brubeck, but that might just be because his is among the little jazz I have heard in any depth. Either way, your piece is very polished and captures its particular sentiment very well indeed.

Nikolas: What struck me about your piece was a reminder of just how effective silences can be, such as those near your conclusion. I suppose most of us are so busy filling time with sound that we tend to forget that no sound at all, even just a small rest, is also a creative element, an option, with meaning and implication. I found your piece attractive, with a peculiarly sinister quality I cannot quite put my finger on.


Edited by Ted (01/07/13 05:43 PM)
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#2010922 - 01/07/13 11:32 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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I've forgotten to comment on Beccas little doodle! Her Opus 2!

First of all, thanks for sharing Becca. Yes, you're a beginner in composition, but sharing and being open means the world to everyone! Your hand writing is clear enough, but also shows very clearly your lack of experience in writing music! smile

The piece has structure, which is great in itself. It's very simple and you didn't even change the left hand, but despite that it's a very nice effort!

How do your new pencils feel? The scan looks quite nice!
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#2010982 - 01/08/13 04:06 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas,I think your Etude is joyful and exciting. Wondering if it is supposed to remain as a piano piece? I feel that it would be suitable for brass instruments.
Becca, Nikolas and Ted. Glad you like my piece. Thanks for your kind comments! Much appreciated.
Joel, I can not comment on your composition as I don’t read music (yet !)
Nikolas, Never heard of Claude Bolling but I found some of his work at YouTube. Thanks for the heads up!
A ballad by McCoy Tyner was the inspiration source for my piece.
Theme for Nana
Joel, I would love to add drums to my recording but I find it difficult to get satisfactory results when working with jazz music. I will give it a try.
Hmm.. “Chick” is a good expression for a hi hat sound. I will remember that.
Prior to the digital sampling era, I used to simulate hi hat sounds on recordings by whispering “sicketisicketisicketi :-)

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#2011031 - 01/08/13 07:36 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Thanks Nikolas! smile

I've been writing out lines to get used to the forms. Hopefully they will eventually come naturally to me! Now that I've gotten the pencils sharpened I like them just fine! I'm using a standard HB. smile

I figure I'll start changing up my left after I get more comfortable with some basic forms. Simple is good for me right now. smile

Now I have to listen and comment.
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#2011034 - 01/08/13 07:39 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Joel:

I have no idea what an écossaise is. LOL Your Doodle sounded more ragtime to me. (but I'm a beginner so who knows lol) It's a neat little tune.
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#2011036 - 01/08/13 07:41 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas:

That made me think I should turn around because someone is sneaking up on me! That or a detective is about to find his man and have a huge fight to win for the good guys! Very dark and very enjoyable!
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#2011089 - 01/08/13 09:32 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas,

Your etude was great. Nice dramatic development of your idea. The idea does sound familiar, but where you take it is not familiar at all. Thanks to Ted for the reminder about the importance of silence.

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#2012546 - 01/11/13 12:00 AM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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Checking in late, as usual. RUNE: That is a very (VERY) nice jazz waltz, with the most engaging progressions! It has a definite West Coast flavor, and I can understand how this took some time to complete. The control of those harmonies does not happen overnight.

The score itself (the written page) needs help, but I believe the changes will be fairly easy –
[1] Change every single A# to a Bb. (That should make ‘Becca happy.)
[2] Change all G#s to Abs, EXCEPT in measures 12 & 13.
[3] Change all D#s to Ebs, EXCEPT in measure 5.
[4] Change ALL those ridiculous E#s (measures 21 & 22, and anywhere else they might occur) to F-naturals.

That should make it much more readable. There are certain other “interpretative liberties” taken between the score and the recording, but since it is jazz, all is forgiven!

Very enjoyable piece! I (and I am sure others here) look forward to hearing more of your stuff.
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#2012559 - 01/11/13 12:39 AM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas,

Etude is brilliant! It is like a Master Class in the development of accompanying figures. I love the rhythmic drive, and how the left hand evolves almost “organically”, and then somehow returns to its original state.
However, as a true “Etude” – a learning piece for students - I believe this should come with a WARNING . “A guy could hurt himself attempting this piece. Use only under the supervision of a Doctor. DO NOT try this at home!”

Makes me want to learn to play the piano . . .
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#2012576 - 01/11/13 01:39 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Nikolas,

Your etude was great. Nice dramatic development of your idea. The idea does sound familiar, but where you take it is not familiar at all.

Yup, Steve,

"The Teddy Bears' Picnic" -- "If you go out in the woods today, you're in for a big surprise . . ."
Compound meter, and the first chord change is up a minor third. And, as you mention, that is where the similarity ends.
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#2012585 - 01/11/13 02:17 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Ed,

million thanks for your great comments!

First of all I do agree with everything you mention about rune's score. And I just hope that he will be interested in bettering himself and bringing us the scores of his lovely music! I know that my students would care for such scores! wink

now, on my little etude.

Yes I'd dare to say that there are a few elements in there that sound familiar, the very first being that small pattern itself. It's very "Duka" like, but of course the harmony takes it to different places. But I'd like if I was to say that the other patterns developing are my own exactly. Exactly like the first pattern they seem to emerge from other composers works (notably Mussorgsky's night on the bald (?) mountain and Williams Star War scores... *ahem*).

Still I think it's catchy enough to make a student study hard to pull it off. And it can be tricky. Of course for my own hands it's rather easy to perform (octaves and chords come natural to me), but I very much see the point in such an etude!
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#2012786 - 01/11/13 01:06 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: LoPresti]
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Checking in late, as usual. RUNE: That is a very (VERY) nice jazz waltz, with the most engaging progressions! It has a definite West Coast flavor, and I can understand how this took some time to complete. The control of those harmonies does not happen overnight.

The score itself (the written page) needs help, but I believe the changes will be fairly easy –
[1] Change every single A# to a Bb. (That should make ‘Becca happy.)
[2] Change all G#s to Abs, EXCEPT in measures 12 & 13.
[3] Change all D#s to Ebs, EXCEPT in measure 5.
[4] Change ALL those ridiculous E#s (measures 21 & 22, and anywhere else they might occur) to F-naturals.

That should make it much more readable. There are certain other “interpretative liberties” taken between the score and the recording, but since it is jazz, all is forgiven!

Very enjoyable piece! I (and I am sure others here) look forward to hearing more of your stuff.
Ed

Ed and Nikolas,
Thanks a lot for the encouraging comments. Guess it shines through that I have listened a lot to west coast fusion jazz over the years blush
Ed, I want to sincerely thank you for the time and effort you put into the score. I will make the changes as you suggested. Hopefully I will be able to produce readable scores of my own in a near future.

Although my trial period with Sibelius has expired (which means that no changes can be saved), I think it should work to make screen dumps and then save the score as a jpeg file.
Not sure yet whether i will keep the Sibelius program. The access to 32GB of sound files are tempting but I will take a close look at the MuseScore program before making any decisions
I´ll be back with an edited score. Thanks again for your kind support!

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#2012934 - 01/11/13 04:23 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Hope I got it right:
Jazz Waltz, edited

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#2012986 - 01/11/13 05:42 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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Hope I got it right: . . .
RunE#

Your new signature is most appreciated among a few of us!!

I feel that my focusing on technicalities in the score is taking something away from a very nicely done piece here, and I would not want that to happen at all! The new version is much more readable, with still a couple of A#s and G#s lingering in the bass clef. (the G#s in measures 12 & 13 are fine just the way they are.) It appears that a B# has found its way into measure 22, or I may have missed it the first time through. Either way, that should be changed to a C natural.

I would welcome Steve, Nikolas’ and others’ thoughts on the following: It seems to me that the software that is constructing the printed page from your sound file is working against you here. These programs have a certain amount of intelligence built into them that deals with key signatures and chords. However, once a composer ventures outside the realm of fairly standard harmonic progressions, the software’s limited “brain” cannot reconcile the clusters, or the voice leading, and therefore takes a guess. If I have it wrong, Gentlemen, please say so.

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#2018460 - 01/21/13 02:51 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Well I'm late. I spent all last night trying to figure out the software. smile This is a piece I wrote for my son. He can do Ana Magdalena Bach so I figure this is approximately slightly more challenging? Maybe, who knows. smile

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#2018492 - 01/21/13 03:59 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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prenex: You certainly are not late. Welcome in fact!

Which one of the two works are for your son?

In any case both are quite nice. The waltz starts of as... not a valse and then the valse movement is quite loose. And those triplets are not needed, since they are in the same tempo and beat as the 3/4, so it's fine without the number 3.

The other work is simple very nice. And should work well with someone going in the Anna Magdalena book.

Thanks for sharing.

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#2018522 - 01/21/13 05:14 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Thanks Nikolas. The works go together. Gallop, then Interlude-Crazy Waltz.

As for the triplets I have yet to figure out how to write the hemiola to stretch out the rhythm.

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#2018696 - 01/21/13 11:34 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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The hemiola is fine as it is written, without the numbers. The number 3 indicates that you need to play 3 8ths in the time of 2. So you're actually requesting the triplets to be played faster, and your right hand doesn't fit the whole bar, but only 2 beats out of three. If you just delete the numbers it's fine as it is.

Oh, btw, I just love the composer "Garret's dad"! laugh Honestly!
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#2018738 - 01/22/13 01:30 AM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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LoPresti: I hope you got my email.

Hi Nikolas,

I DID receive your eMails, and wish to publicly thank you for the effort in getting this old stuff into digital formats that can be displayed and decoded here.

NOT Piano - sorry. This is the first Movement of a string quartet I wrote 30 years ago. I shall refrain from comment, except to mention that if the listener is not accustomed to somewhat modern string works, s/he will enjoy this more on the second, third, and subsequent listenings, as the melodies come more into focus.

Score:
http://www.nikolas-sideris.com/EMF/Ed_LoPresti_Quartet.pdf

Sound:
http://www.nikolas-sideris.com/EMF/Ed_LoPresti_Quartet.mp3

Thanks for the opportunity to post.
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#2018746 - 01/22/13 02:18 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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It's my turn now to thank Ed publicly. He's done so much for me (just considering the scores that are going from the US to Greece... grin).

Despite some of his difficulties with technology he's managed to do everything, even if it involved sending me a physical CD! I can only say thank you for going in all this trouble, Ed! Listening to your quartet (and checking out your hand written score) makes it all worthy. At least for me and I'm guessing for the rest of us.

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Now, onto your work.

First of all, performance wise, I get a feeling that they kinda lost it around 2:10 or so... But very quickly found it.

The rest of the performance works very well, and they seem well sync together (although I get a tiny feeling that they must've been connected a little while. It doesn't sound like a quartet with members who've been together for decades... Let me know...). And, btw, what quartet is it?

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The score has some interesting parts (for example the mention of tutti around the middle, or the lack of general bowing directions (which is in your favour, actually...). But if I was to correct anything, that'd just be to connect the inner barlines, cause it makes it confusing.

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But the music... oh the music is SO interesting!

For me, who am accustomed to some dissonance and more 'modern' works I'd say that this is a wonderful example sitting right in the middle: It's modal, but yet not treated this way fully. It's got its share of dissonance, but doesn't carry a load doing that. It's got movement, action, drama.

I say that this is a fine quartet!

I'd be very curious to see what the other movements were like. I'm guessing that there would be a strong contradiction in the second movement, but I can't be sure...

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In any case,thank you for offering your score and for keeping alive this thread.

And, as is show, there's no limit in instrumentation (piano only), date composed (30 years ago), or anything else. Anything will go and we're enjoying and celebrating creativity in monthly doses!

YAY!
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#2018840 - 01/22/13 07:40 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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Wow! I am so glad I visited the Composer's Lounge. I really enjoyed all the pieces. I look forward to listening and trying (and possibly sharing) more pieces in the months ahead. Being new to piano, I really appreciated BeccaBb work. It is an inspiration for me to think about music differently, and to come up with my own permutation of notes.
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    #2018993 - 01/22/13 12:22 PM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Thank you, Nikolas. for your most generous compliments!

    I believe it is never good form to justify shortcomings in one’s work, but I would like to comment upon the players who tackled this. Obviously it was not the Manhattan String Quartet, nor the Julliard, nor the Emerson, nor the Kronos, and not even the Ying. While it was a “standing quartet” that played frequently, not one of the members was a full-time string player. As their “real” jobs, one was the conductor of a pops orchestra, one a college professor, one a string instrument MAKER, and the fourth was a PIANO tuner and technician working with a regional Symphony.

    Sadly for me ( but very fortunate for the concert-going community! ), my Quartet was never “performed”, lacking the third and final Movement. But I hired this quartet to rehearse and record only Movement I -- long story! The players took their parts and worked on them individually (which Nikolas, Steve, Exhaulted, and several others here can attest is only a small portion of putting things together.)

    Recording studio time was VERY EXPENSIVE (and still is!), so we cut a few corners there. As I recall, we rehearsed for slightly longer that 5 hours, breaking only for pizza and soda, and then did a couple of tapings.
    Make no mistake - these players were REAL MUSICIANS! Instead of a measure number, I could say, “ Let’s take it from where the ‘cello enters tuppa-tuppa-tup--tuppa-ti-pi. One-and-two-and . . . ” - everyone would be “right there”! This was the best recording that came out of the session. Minor timing, rhythmic, and intonation issues aside, I felt, and still feel, that the recording represents my original vision of the music.

    As you guessed, Nikolas, Movement II is much more homophonic, with long, flowing lines, and a strong contrast to the first Movement.
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    #2019081 - 01/22/13 02:14 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    I recorded my live performance of Black Hills at Songmakers (a Southern California music group). It has a jazzy feel to it. I only had the first phrase in mind before starting, so some would characterize it as an improvisation.
    It is all on the five black keys.

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    #2019891 - 01/23/13 07:51 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: LoPresti]
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    I can not believe that no one is taking this opportunity to "get even" with me. Now's your chance, Guys.

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    #2020063 - 01/24/13 01:48 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    I think you scared them away Ed! wink This is how nice your quartet was! smile
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    #2020206 - 01/24/13 09:05 AM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    You are making me want to write something new, but I can not find my composing pencil . . .
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    #2020257 - 01/24/13 10:48 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: LoPresti]
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    Originally Posted By: LoPresti
    You are making me want to write something new, but I can not find my composing pencil . . .
    This is such a lame excuse ed! Come on! I bet you can find a pencil you can use in NYC! Otherwise allow me to send you one! It might take a while but still;)

    but I somehow feel rather connected with this work (being the one who took care of it, etc), so perhaps I'm a bit biased in my feedback... What do the rest feel?
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    #2020685 - 01/24/13 08:02 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    I'm working on another miniature. Are you going to create a February deposit?

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    #2020785 - 01/24/13 10:23 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Of course WE are!

    This is a community thing. I just create the thread and basically it's better that I do it, because I have the powers to edit 'forever and ever and ever and ever' in the composers forum... Otherwise anyone can do it...

    And since there will be a February, there will also be a deposit! wink
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    #2020886 - 01/25/13 03:59 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: LoPresti]
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    I can not believe that no one is taking this opportunity to "get even" with me. Now's your chance, Guys.

    Ed


    Hi Ed,
    According to the guidelines, this forum is dedicated for composers and I do not consider myself as a composer. (although I have contributed here with a few simple pieces)
    Therefore I feel not qualified to make judgements about professional works like your String Quartet.
    Nevertheless, I found the piece athmospheric and interesting. I got associations to music on old black/white Swedish nature films I watched at school when I was a kid.

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    #2020889 - 01/25/13 04:18 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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    Originally Posted By: LoPresti
    I can not believe that no one is taking this opportunity to "get even" with me. Now's your chance, Guys.

    Ed


    Hi Ed,
    According to the guidelines, this forum is dedicated for composers and I do not consider myself as a composer. (although I have contributed here with a few simple pieces)
    Therefore I feel not qualified to make judgements about professional works like your String Quartet.

    Just in case...

    Rune it's exactly the opposite of what you say. Even on the first post of this thread (and the previous, since I copy pasted it), I mention this:

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    This is where we, the pianoworld members and composers offer our compositions free of charge to the rest of the pianoworld members!
    pianoworld members and composers... Pianoworld members as well...

    There's no reason to think that you're not qualified to do anything. And you shouldn't feel intimidated the least by anything you see here. It's about sharing, and discussing more than anything else.

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    Nevertheless, I found the piece athmospheric and interesting. I got associations to music on old black/white Swedish nature films I watched at school when I was a kid.

    Rune
    That's more like it! wink and I agree, the quartet has this old-ish (60s) quality, because it was composed around that time (right Ed? Or 70s...).
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    #2020899 - 01/25/13 04:30 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    #2020910 - 01/25/13 04:52 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    [/quote]
    Just in case...

    Rune it's exactly the opposite of what you say. Even on the first post of this thread (and the previous, since I copy pasted it), I mention this:

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    pianoworld members and composers... Pianoworld members as well...

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    Ok, Got it :-)
    I was referring to the text on top of the "Composers Lounge" page
    "Please limit this forum to discussions by composers or about composers. Of course, this is the place to ask composers questions too"

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    #2020929 - 01/25/13 06:02 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Rune: Oh... that makes sense... I guess I didn't read the fine lines in the forums... Took them for granted and with a pinch of freedom there... but still, it's so difficult to say who is a composer and who not. I mean Becca just started out, and this was her op. 2. Yet she deserves every right to post here, to post comments and wonder what pencil she should use (which got a fair share of replies... :)).

    Joel: Yup I know about it, but in general, with 3 websites under my belt I prefer uploading my stuff to my own site! I do have a soundcloud account, but it's limited to my computer games tunes, rather than anything else...
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    #2021005 - 01/25/13 09:24 AM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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    Originally Posted By: Rune E
    Hi Ed . . . Therefore I feel not qualified to make judgements about professional works like your String Quartet.

    Hi Rune

    Thank you for giving my work a good listen, and for your very generous evaluation of how I used to work. I certainly do not consider this a professional-level work, although one might cite it as an example of what a few of us amateur composers were writing thirty-some years ago.

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    Nevertheless, I found the piece athmospheric and interesting. I got associations to music on old black/white Swedish nature films I watched at school when I was a kid.

    Inspiration! I am trying to remember . . . I may have had my eyes on a nice Swedish girl at that time - a Swedish Nature Girl, as it were. I may even have taken her to the movies . . .

    More likely: At that time, I was listening to a lot of Bartok, Shostakovich, and William Schuman string music, so think 80-90 years ago. Not Neilson, but perhaps those are where your Swedish film writers also got THEIR inspiration?

    Ed
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    #2021120 - 01/25/13 01:24 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: LoPresti]
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    Not Neilson, but perhaps those are where your Swedish film writers also got THEIR inspiration?

    Ed

    Are you referring to the Danish composer Carl Nielsen?
    I listened to some String Quartets by Swedish composers at YouTube but most of them have a more romantic touch
    My closest find was Hilding Rosenberg (1892-1985)
    String Quartet No. 12
    Sorry moderator for going off topic

    Rune

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    #2021194 - 01/25/13 03:50 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Ed, I really like your string piece. The beginning is just beautiful and kind of haunting. The second part was just messy (not in a bad way more like watching someone go down in a wreck in slow motion.. imagine it with a movie playing.. it fits perfectly.)

    Very visually evoking. smile Thanks for sharing it!
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    #2021198 - 01/25/13 03:53 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Thanks Scorpio smile It's a bit nerve wracking being so beginnerish but nice to have friendly people helping and encouraging. smile

    Rune I figure if I count then you count! lol smile
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    #2022293 - 01/27/13 05:28 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Hello everyone. This is my second composition.

    Miniature in D-flat major

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    #2022355 - 01/27/13 07:19 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: JoelW]
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    JoelW, that is a really great little piece! As fascinating as it is charming.
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    #2022364 - 01/27/13 07:31 PM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Ben Crosland]
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    Thanks. smile

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    #2022611 - 01/28/13 03:45 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Joel,
    I listened to both your pieces and they got me in a good mood!
    Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to Miniature #.3

    Rune

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    #2022614 - 01/28/13 03:53 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Joel,

    I already know about this miniature, but I think that posting in public is better... wink

    I think that this is a marvelous little miniature. It's great, because you said what you have to say in less than a minute, and you're done with it! It's a miniature that's not missing anything. Your music language works great and so does the melodic fragments here and there! wink very well done mate!
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    #2022618 - 01/28/13 04:04 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Thanks you guys. That means a lot.

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    #2022630 - 01/28/13 04:35 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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    Joel,
    I listened to both your pieces and they got me in a good mood!
    Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to Miniature #.3

    Rune

    As a counterbalance ;-) I am re-posting a sentimental piece, composed a long time ago. The news is that I managed to make a score for it in MuseScore. (note by note!)
    With my limited knowledge, I´m sure there´s a lot of errors. I would highly appreciate criticism.
    Interestingly enough, It was possible to save the score as a XML file, which means that I can open it in my trial version of Sibelius. No changes can be saved though, as the trial period has expired.
    Pdf. score
    XML file
    Sound file

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    #2022632 - 01/28/13 04:51 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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    Originally Posted By: Rune E
    Joel,
    I listened to both your pieces and they got me in a good mood!
    Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to Miniature #.3

    Rune

    As a counterbalance ;-) I am re-posting a sentimental piece, composed a long time ago. The news is that I managed to make a score for it in MuseScore. (note by note!)
    With my limited knowledge, I´m sure there´s a lot of errors. I would highly appreciate criticism.
    Interestingly enough, It was possible to save the score as a XML file, which means that I can open it in my trial version of Sibelius. No changes can be saved though, as the trial period has expired.
    Pdf. score
    XML file
    Sound file


    This is a nice piece. I enjoyed the choice of chords. The first theme and its repeat has a nice progression. At one point it even reminds me of Chopin's first prelude. Good job overall.

    What is this talk about errors? It is YOUR piece, no?


    Edited by JoelW (01/28/13 04:57 AM)
    Edit Reason: Nevermind! Just realized that you were talking about actual notation. (I think...)

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    #2022634 - 01/28/13 05:03 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Yes, he's talking about his score...

    Rune, it's a very nice piece... And an interesting chord progression. If I was to offer any kind of criticism for the music, I'd say that the tempo and rhythm remains too static; but that's just me.

    For the notation there are various things that I'd do in a different way, but I'm running out of time right now, so if you'll forgive me I'll offer some feedback later on tonight (Europe here)...

    Thanks for sharing!
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    #2022950 - 01/28/13 04:21 PM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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    Originally Posted By: LoPresti
    Not Neilson, but perhaps those are where your Swedish film writers also got THEIR inspiration?

    Are you referring to the Danish composer Carl Nielsen?

    Hi Rune,

    Thank you for correcting my spelling, and it certainly was Maestro Nielsen to whom I was referring - unfortunately from memory. One of the primary aspects that first attracted me to Nielsen's music was the noble, neo-Romantic flavors.

    I enjoyed the Rosenberg very much! I had not heard it previously.
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    #2022989 - 01/28/13 05:27 PM The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: BeccaBb]
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    Originally Posted By: BeccaBb
    Ed, I really like your string piece. The beginning is just beautiful and kind of haunting. The second part was just messy (not in a bad way more like watching someone go down in a wreck in slow motion.. imagine it with a movie playing.. it fits perfectly.)

    Hi ‘Becca,

    Thank you for the lavish praise. I am so glad you took the time, and enjoyed it. When recording, we got very lucky, because those opening harmonics in the First Violin are treacherous. Our man hit them right on the money, and that did make for a beautiful result.

    In the middle section of the Movement, “go down in a wreck . . .”, I think you may actually hear some of the struggle I had in getting my notes down on paper. There are essentially two, very different themes, competing for (insisting upon!) prominence. I was constantly working in an attempt to control the dissonance as these two flipped, and turned, and fought for attention.

    I wish to thank you especially for this.
    Originally Posted By: BeccaBb
    Very visually evoking.

    Most people read to get words and ideas into their brains. Some of us read to draw pictures in our minds. Similarly, listening to music. So, thanks for letting me draw a few pictures for you! (It says a lot about how you listen.)

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    #2023288 - 01/29/13 06:24 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Nikolas]
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    Originally Posted By: Nikolas
    Yes, he's talking about his score...

    Rune, it's a very nice piece... And an interesting chord progression. If I was to offer any kind of criticism for the music, I'd say that the tempo and rhythm remains too static; but that's just me.

    For the notation there are various things that I'd do in a different way, but I'm running out of time right now, so if you'll forgive me I'll offer some feedback later on tonight (Europe here)...

    Thanks for sharing!

    Joel and Nikolas,
    Many thanks for your comments on my Bagatelle. I do appreciate your input.
    And yes, my concerns was about the score where I guess missing notes on pedal usage is a mayor issue. More study in program user manuals and music theory in general is on my priority list.
    I have learned a lot though since I started to make recordings in score software and studying the scores. MuseScore was a good find! Thanks for the tip!
    I have also tried ScoreCleaner, as recommended in another thread. I seems to be even more user friendly but unfortunately the program crashes after a while on my MacBook.

    Rune

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    #2023344 - 01/29/13 09:19 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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    Originally Posted By: Rune E
    As a counterbalance ;-) I am re-posting a sentimental piece, composed a long time ago.

    Rune,

    I just listened to your Bagatelle for the first time, and it is ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, with an incredible sense of timing and dynamics. Believe me :: any time you invest in improving your ability to capture your music on paper will be very well spent, indeed! Your music is well-worth "inking", where others can enjoy trying and enjoying it.

    Bravo.
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    #2023835 - 01/30/13 05:07 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: LoPresti]
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    Ed,

    Thank you sir for encouraging comments on my simple (and rather predictable) piece.
    An advantage with scores I´ve never thought about is that one gets attention to weaknesses like poor voicing when capturing the music on paper. I feel that ease of playing easily get priority when composing with all music in the head.
    Sorry again for poor English. I blame it on Google Translate :-)

    Rune

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    #2023936 - 01/30/13 09:39 AM Re: The - JANUARY - depository of compositions from PianoWorld [Re: Rune E]
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    . . . An advantage with scores I´ve never thought about is that one gets attention to weaknesses like poor voicing when capturing the music on paper. I feel that ease of playing easily get priority when composing with all music in the head.

    Good observation! "Voicing", and in particular "voice LEADING", is much more important when writing for groups and combinations of individual instruments. It is not as much of an issue for those who compose solely for piano or organ.

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