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#2009396 - 01/05/13 11:19 AM recital 1st half
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would this work: Chopin, op.22/57/35 as 1st half, after the break op.25, my concern is between op.22 and 35, will the Berceuse have a chance there?
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#2009420 - 01/05/13 12:03 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: dolce sfogato]
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I think that the Berceuse could hold its own just about anywhere. I wouldn't have a problem with it between the Opp. 22 and 35.

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#2009435 - 01/05/13 12:20 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Not for me, but then I couldn't sit through an all Chopin recital whatever order the pieces were in.

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#2009439 - 01/05/13 12:31 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Originally Posted By: dolce sfogato
would this work: Chopin, op.22/57/35 as 1st half, after the break op.25, my concern is between op.22 and 35, will the Berceuse have a chance there?


Sure, if you really like Chopin.
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#2009446 - 01/05/13 12:41 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Originally Posted By: dolce sfogato
would this work: Chopin, op.22/57/35 as 1st half, after the break op.25, my concern is between op.22 and 35, will the Berceuse have a chance there?


Absolutely.

but, after the break, the whole of op. 25? depending on the audience and the occasion, that may be a bit much.

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#2009452 - 01/05/13 01:06 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: dolce sfogato]
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In any recital presentation, I seem to be unfailingly a big fan of contrast. In that context, the Berceuse serves IMO as an IDEAL candidate between 22 and 35. Would definitely elect for it!

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#2009608 - 01/05/13 06:23 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: dolce sfogato]
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sometimes a program is requested, one dutifully tries to oblige, in this case a full Chopinrecital, ok, what has one ready, what is one prepared to prepare, what is in one's own interest to add to the rep., and what makes a good program, all these questions pop up now and then, and as a slave to the industry of concertmanagers et al. one does what one can. I'm glad the berceuse doesn't seem to get annihilated between the other items, and , yes, the whole of op.25, last time was all of op.10, next time will be opp.10 +25 haha.
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#2009635 - 01/05/13 06:58 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: kuifje]
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Originally Posted By: kuifje
...but, after the break, the whole of op. 25? depending on the audience and the occasion, that may be a bit much.
if you're talking about the length it's only around 35 minutes.


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#2009639 - 01/05/13 07:02 PM Re: recital 1st half [Re: dolce sfogato]
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op.22 + 57 + 35 take (in my performance): 45 min, op.25 30 min, quite the normal length of a recital/concert.
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#2009824 - 01/06/13 03:34 AM Re: recital 1st half [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: kuifje
...but, after the break, the whole of op. 25? depending on the audience and the occasion, that may be a bit much.
if you're talking about the length it's only around 35 minutes.


No, i didn't mean the length, the length is fine. I thought that playing only etudes, might be a too little variation for some audiences. While I prefer to buy (and have bought) CD's with complete series only, in a recital i could see a mix of the shorter stuff (preludes, etudes, nocturnes, waltzes, mazurkas), or perhaps another polonaise or a scherzo.

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#2009856 - 01/06/13 06:51 AM Re: recital 1st half [Re: kuifje]
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Originally Posted By: kuifje
...but, after the break, the whole of op. 25? depending on the audience and the occasion, that may be a bit much.
if you're talking about the length it's only around 35 minutes.


No, i didn't mean the length, the length is fine. I thought that playing only etudes, might be a too little variation for some audiences. While I prefer to buy (and have bought) CD's with complete series only, in a recital i could see a mix of the shorter stuff (preludes, etudes, nocturnes, waltzes, mazurkas), or perhaps another polonaise or a scherzo.
It is quite common to perform a complete set of Chopin Etudes in recital, and there is great variety within the Etudes in either set.

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