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#2007605 - 01/01/13 06:16 PM Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos
Inceptic Offline
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Registered: 10/09/12
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I am looking for digital piano stands that I would be able to pull out from under a desk.

Something like in the picture below.

Is there anything out there without having to go the custom-built route?

I've seen some studio desks with pull-out trays for keyboards, but I worry that an 88-key digital piano would be too big/heavy for that to work well. But I'm open to suggestions either way.


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#2007653 - 01/01/13 08:22 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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A normal desk has a table-top height of around 29". If, say, the top is one inch thick, then the underside is at 28". Allowing an inch clearance below the desk, the piano key tops would be at 27". (Normal height is around 28".)

But this would require the piano/keyboard to rest on a table whose height is perhaps 23" or 24" high.

There is (or used to be) a kind of table called a typewriter table. These were meant to set beneath a normal table top. They were often on wheels or casters. I used to have one. It's tabletop was at 26". (But I think 27" is more typical.)

This would put a keyboard's piano keys at 29" or 30" ... a bit higher than normal (though perhaps tolerable), but entirely too high to slide under a normal-height desk.

So I don't know of any "standard" solution for your problem.

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#2007681 - 01/01/13 09:08 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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You might see something here that could give you ideas if you end up going the custom route.

If I were doing this I would find the furniture, a suitable desk unit large enough for the 88-key piano to go under then if it was not already designed for the weight and size of your piano I would replace the hardware and tray with something customized and stronger.



Do It Yourself:











HERE is an idea using heavy-duty slide out shelving.

Thread of topic elsewhere:


...and elsewhere:


Another DIY:


...general rec. studio furniture discussion elsewhere:












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#2007702 - 01/01/13 09:58 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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Are those custom affairs? Or can you just buy those?

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#2007733 - 01/01/13 11:43 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: MacMacMac]
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Originally Posted By: MacMacMac
Are those custom affairs? Or can you just buy those?

Some are custom some are available as pre-made furniture. If I did not make any errors each image is linked to its source for further information.

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#2007743 - 01/02/13 12:03 AM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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Beautiful collection Ampy - thanks for posting!

On the boat, I'm limited in all dimensions, and am using stainless ball-bearing drawer-slide assemblies from McMaster-Carr:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#drawer-slides/=kus6e0

Some of those are exceedingly robust and can easily handle both static and dynamic loading of a full-size heavy stage piano. I've been tempted to take a Nord and use it as the shelf (self-supporting with end brackets) to minimize the knee-clearance problem, but more realistically I'll put something cheaper on a foam-core shelf suspended between two slides, with long enough travel to get out of the way when retracted. (Waiting for NAMM to decide on which board.)

Here are some cheaper ones that aren't stainless, and would be fine for most applications:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#drawer-slides/=kus89a

Cheers,
Steve



Edited by Nomadness (01/02/13 12:05 AM)
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#2010693 - 01/07/13 04:39 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Nomadness]
Inceptic Offline
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Thanks a lot guys for the feedback!

I guess the custom route is the way to go. Some very nice ideas posted by Ampy!

Originally Posted By: Nomadness
Beautiful collection Ampy - thanks for posting!

On the boat, I'm limited in all dimensions, and am using stainless ball-bearing drawer-slide assemblies from McMaster-Carr:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#drawer-slides/=kus6e0

Some of those are exceedingly robust and can easily handle both static and dynamic loading of a full-size heavy stage piano. I've been tempted to take a Nord and use it as the shelf (self-supporting with end brackets) to minimize the knee-clearance problem, but more realistically I'll put something cheaper on a foam-core shelf suspended between two slides, with long enough travel to get out of the way when retracted. (Waiting for NAMM to decide on which board.)

Here are some cheaper ones that aren't stainless, and would be fine for most applications:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#drawer-slides/=kus89a

Cheers,
Steve



Those look great. Though the website is very strange. Didn't let me browse until I created an account.

EDIT: Btw, do you know what they mean when they say "Friction Release"?


Edited by Inceptic (01/07/13 04:42 PM)

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#2010730 - 01/07/13 05:01 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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Originally Posted By: Inceptic
I guess the custom route is the way to go. Some very nice ideas posted by Ampy!

Clicking on each image will link you to their source in case you did not discover this.

Quite a few are pre-built non-custom furniture.

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#2010784 - 01/07/13 06:10 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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Inceptic, (OT): what are the nice chairs on the first pic?

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#2010795 - 01/07/13 06:54 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Temperament]
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Originally Posted By: Temperament
Inceptic, (OT): what are the nice chairs on the first pic?


Herman Miller Aeron chairs. They are standard office chairs.

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#2010809 - 01/07/13 07:29 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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Originally Posted By: Inceptic
Btw, do you know what they mean when they say "Friction Release"?


Those can be disconnected by just pulling all the way out, overcoming friction rather than having to push a release button. I don't think that style would be ideal for such expensive cargo, especially in earthquake country (like a boat)! The other methods either require disassembly (screws) or pressing a button.

Steve
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#2010846 - 01/07/13 09:07 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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Ummm keyboard porn. 3hearts
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#2012352 - 01/10/13 04:33 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
Inceptic Offline
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Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o

Clicking on each image will link you to their source in case you did not discover this.

Quite a few are pre-built non-custom furniture.


Yeah I noticed that. You did a great job preparing that post with source links. I'm still evaluating options that's for sure.


Originally Posted By: Temperament
Inceptic, (OT): what are the nice chairs on the first pic?


Well that first picture is NOT my studio! But Frank is correct. Be careful with those though, as they come in three sizes, so make sure to try them out first. If you get the wrong size your legs will hurt.

Originally Posted By: Nomadness


Those can be disconnected by just pulling all the way out, overcoming friction rather than having to push a release button. I don't think that style would be ideal for such expensive cargo, especially in earthquake country (like a boat)! The other methods either require disassembly (screws) or pressing a button.

Steve


Thanks for the explanation Steve. I went to my local hardware store here. They didn't have nice fancy ones like in that website. I might have to order some of those if they're tried and tested.

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#2012445 - 01/10/13 07:47 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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Another company is Omnirax. They have both designed and custom options.
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#2322719 - 09/01/14 03:36 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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¡Wow! Very beautiful studios and desks.

I'm looking for the best solution to have the piano in front of the desk and computer, so this pictures can help me with some ideas. I want to find a method to hide the piano below the desk when not in use, like penultimate picture, but I thinks it's very, very difficult, because piano will be a HEAVY Kawai MP11.
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#2322804 - 09/01/14 06:49 PM Re: Pull-out Stands for Digital Pianos [Re: Inceptic]
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The issue for a home hobbyist like me is that no single set up is perfect for the various things I do. For example, at one time I want to play my DP + synth on top, at another time I want to mix/record with a DAW/large computer screen, which ideally requires a quite different set up.

I have sometimes thought about designing something like a theatre stage with suspended props from overhead railings, invisible counterweights, etc. that can quickly be configured and re-configured from one stage scene (or music room scene, in this case) to the next cool

Of course, one could also have a dozen music rooms, each one with the perfect set up for whatever one chooses to do grin
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