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#2011051 - 01/08/13 08:20 AM
Re: The Ephiphany of Technique I just had
[Re: Skorpius]
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The faster the piece, the slower you practice it.
A significant percent of pianists agree that slow practice is necessary and useful at some point in the process of learning a piece. Some think very slow practice is needed even when one has the notes well learned and can play them at full speed. I have started threads about very slow practice of this type and asked the question "Do you think this is important and, if so, why?" Many thought very slow practice was important but the reasons they gave were often very different and almost as numerous as the number of people replying. As far as the phrase "The faster the piece, the slower you practice it." goes, I'd say it sounds catchy but I don't see why it's particularly true. If it works for the OP then it's a good discovery for him but I see no general significance for most pianists there.
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#2011057 - 01/08/13 08:25 AM
Re: The Ephiphany of Technique I just had
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+1 and thank you. I've been struggling with one of those broad, dramatic up-the-piano and down-the-piano gestures that Liszt liked to write. I've played it slowly until I know it perfectly. I can speed it up quite a bit but I still can't get it all the way up to tempo. (I must have played it 500 times). Maybe I just need to go even slower. I'll give it a try and get back to you. That's possible, but the first thing I would think about is trying to figure out what's causing this particular technical difficulty.
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#2011118 - 01/08/13 10:55 AM
Re: The Ephiphany of Technique I just had
[Re: Skorpius]
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I'll add, slow practicing with the correct fingering. The fingering needs to be thought about with regard to the regular tempo of the piece. It requires some analytical time with the score, but saves a lot of time and hardship when the tempo starts to increase, and it seems to increase all by itself as you practice slowly. Pay attention to the fingering.
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#2011205 - 01/08/13 01:55 PM
Re: The Ephiphany of Technique I just had
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I agree with this. Slow practice is important but it isn't everything. For one thing the technique you use in slow practice may not work well at a faster tempo.
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#2011412 - 01/08/13 07:53 PM
Re: The Ephiphany of Technique I just had
[Re: pianoloverus]
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The faster the piece, the slower you practice it.
A significant percent of pianists agree that slow practice is necessary and useful at some point in the process of learning a piece. Some think very slow practice is needed even when one has the notes well learned and can play them at full speed. I have started threads about very slow practice of this type and asked the question "Do you think this is important and, if so, why?" Many thought very slow practice was important but the reasons they gave were often very different and almost as numerous as the number of people replying. As far as the phrase "The faster the piece, the slower you practice it." goes, I'd say it sounds catchy but I don't see why it's particularly true. If it works for the OP then it's a good discovery for him but I see no general significance for most pianists there. Yeah, I have to agree here. The phrase seems to suggest that one should go slow simply for the sake of going slow. I think there may be implied meaning, and even correlation among some pianists, behind it, but I don't think it's a universal law. I would suggest a better way of thinking might be: "Practice correctly, at whatever speed it takes to do so."
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#2011988 - 01/09/13 11:56 PM
Re: The Ephiphany of Technique I just had
[Re: drazh]
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hi
may be you should try another fingering Perhaps it is useful to leave more time between notes, just as Drazh found it useful to wait seven months before suggesting that Gooddog try a different fingering. K.
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