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#2011003 - 01/08/13 05:44 AM Simplifying difficult pieces . . .
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Do you have a piano piece which, being a tad difficile, you simplify it yourself, just to make it flow better?

Because we don`t all have the time/intellect/fingers to do perfect . . .


Edited by peterws (01/09/13 05:32 AM)
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#2011074 - 01/08/13 08:51 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: peterws]
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1). This should be posted in the Adult Beginners Forum. Assuming the poster is an adult.

2). I wasn't aware that compositions could be infected by C. deficile. It certainly would cause a severe diarrhea of excess notes and should be treated. Surgical removal of the excess might be warranted.
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#2011130 - 01/08/13 11:19 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: peterws]
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Difficile is an Italian word wink

I just simplified Downton Abbey theme blush
Octaves in the RH and huge arpeggios in the LH was too much for me, so I trimmed the LH chords a bit.
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#2011265 - 01/08/13 03:51 PM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: sinophilia]
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I`ve requested this be shifted to the appropriate section. But I might have got that wrong, too . . . .heh heh
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#2011267 - 01/08/13 03:52 PM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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"Assuming the poster is an adult."

Assume nothing, my friend! It`s safer . . .
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#2011561 - 01/09/13 05:36 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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"Surgical removal of the excess might be warranted."

Without an anaesthetist . . as long as it plays/sounds better.
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#2011572 - 01/09/13 06:21 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: peterws]
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I simplify arrangements all the time so that I can make a go at playing them.
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#2011576 - 01/09/13 06:49 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: peterws]
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It doesn't even have to be difficult pieces. Simplifying is a useful skill for sightreading. I remember in learning to play hymns, I was advised that if I couldn't catch all the chords at once, I should concentrate on getting the bass and melody lines in; tenor and alto a bit more dispensable.
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#2011589 - 01/09/13 07:47 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: jdw]
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"tenor and alto a bit more dispensable."!

There was one poor bugger in our church choir. Nice fellas he was, but he was a tenor; not his fault of course, he drew the wrong straw. I played 3 outa the four parts . . guess who was left floundering like a beached whale . . . ! I laugh to think about it! And my imperfections were laid bare . .
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#2011762 - 01/09/13 03:33 PM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: peterws]
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I simplify by playing the melody line with right hand. Then adding some notes with left hand if necessary.
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#2012054 - 01/10/13 03:07 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: Newman]
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So do I. I use the free open source MuseScore program to revise and print out charts. Though usually I'm punching up the oversimplified ones from WikiFonia, rather than simplifying.
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#2012070 - 01/10/13 03:53 AM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: peterws]
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+1 for MuseScore. Amazing application! Also useful to write down transpositions.
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#2012491 - 01/10/13 09:27 PM Re: This`ll Grab Ya . . . [Re: sinophilia]
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Another +1 for MuseScore. I've used it to simplify scores, then add back notes as I progressed.
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