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#2014979 - 01/15/13 03:02 PM Checking Out a New Digital Piano?
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I'm receiving my new digital piano tomorrow (Yamaha DGX640), which was purchased online.

Is there anything specific to check out on it (other than just playing it and making all of the keys work, etc)? Are there particular functions that tend to fail early on and should be checked?

Thanks!
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#2014981 - 01/15/13 03:09 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: newbert]
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I'm receiving my new digital piano tomorrow (Yamaha DGX640), which was purchased online.

Is there anything specific to check out on it (other than just playing it and making all of the keys work, etc)? Are there particular functions that tend to fail early on and should be checked?

Thanks!
Cheap non-weighted keys. Not a good instrument to learn piano on. Can find in every state on Craigslist.
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#2015004 - 01/15/13 03:52 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: 36251]
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Originally Posted By: 36251
Originally Posted By: newbert
I'm receiving my new digital piano tomorrow (Yamaha DGX640), which was purchased online.

Is there anything specific to check out on it (other than just playing it and making all of the keys work, etc)? Are there particular functions that tend to fail early on and should be checked?

Thanks!
Cheap non-weighted keys. Not a good instrument to learn piano on. Can find in every state on Craigslist.


It does have GHS action Yamaha and, while it does not rival an acoustic grand, it will be fine to learn on IMO.

Make sure it powers up, make sure the display works and is not cracked, and make sure each key plays and is not stuck. If your package arrives looking damaged at all, have UPS or whoever delivers it make note of it. Check for speaker distortion and/or rattling in the board when you play it. And all that would apply no matter what DP you buy.

Whenever I get a new keyboard, I go through the manual and pretty much try everything even if I don't yet understand what all of the buttons do.

Your keyboard has lots of tones, rhythm accompaniments, eq settings, etc etc, and I think it's a really fun board. Congratulations on your new keyboard and let us know what you think when you've had a chance!
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#2015155 - 01/15/13 10:07 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: piRround]
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Originally Posted By: 36251
Originally Posted By: newbert
I'm receiving my new digital piano tomorrow (Yamaha DGX640), which was purchased online.

Is there anything specific to check out on it (other than just playing it and making all of the keys work, etc)? Are there particular functions that tend to fail early on and should be checked?

Thanks!
Cheap non-weighted keys. Not a good instrument to learn piano on. Can find in every state on Craigslist.


It does have GHS action Yamaha and, while it does not rival an acoustic grand, it will be fine to learn on IMO.

Make sure it powers up, make sure the display works and is not cracked, and make sure each key plays and is not stuck. If your package arrives looking damaged at all, have UPS or whoever delivers it make note of it. Check for speaker distortion and/or rattling in the board when you play it. And all that would apply no matter what DP you buy.

Whenever I get a new keyboard, I go through the manual and pretty much try everything even if I don't yet understand what all of the buttons do.

Your keyboard has lots of tones, rhythm accompaniments, eq settings, etc etc, and I think it's a really fun board. Congratulations on your new keyboard and let us know what you think when you've had a chance!


Thanks, Sandy! Will do.
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#2015216 - 01/16/13 12:45 AM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: 36251]
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I agree with Sandy, especially pertaining to any physical damage.

Check all the buttons to make sure none are jammed, but I believe the DGX's have rubber buttons, so it shouldn't be an issue. Some buttons may not have an immediately obvious function, so I'd be more focused on making sure they all look and feel right. Just be sure not to set it in to some obscure mode.

I don't think you'll need to go menu-diving to check all the bells and whistles. It's kind of like a computer in that checking all the capabilities would be difficult and time consuming (and if you're unfamiliar with what a function does, it's not easy to detect a problem with it). Software rarely has any random problems like that, anyway. Especially on a well-established piece of hardware like the DGX.

As far as anything wearing out - no, not really. The action takes the most abuse, so if anything fails it'll be that. Most actions have lifespans long enough that you'll be looking for something new and fresh before they wear out.

I've heard of LCD's failing, but again that's trivial. But do follow Sandy's advice and check it closely when you receive it.


Edited by LesCharles73 (01/16/13 10:18 PM)
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#2015352 - 01/16/13 08:54 AM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: LesCharles73]
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Originally Posted By: LesCharles73

...I agree with Sandy, especially pertaining to any physical damage.

Check all the buttons to make sure none are jammed, but I believe the DGX's have rubber buttons, so it shouldn't be an issue. Some buttons may not have an immediately obvious function, so I'd be more focused on making sure they all look and feel right. Just be sure not to set it in to some obscure mode......


Excellent Advice, Les. Thank You!

You're right that I won't be familiar with all the bells and whistles for some time, so going thru that first would be fruitless. Checking that all buttons actually physically work is a good idea - Best to do with power off, perhaps, in order to not engage some setting that I might not be able to easily undo?
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#2015361 - 01/16/13 09:22 AM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: newbert]
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A factory reset (how-to will be found in your manual) will usually take care of any settings you accidently made. I've used it many, many times!
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#2015446 - 01/16/13 12:08 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: 36251]
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Originally Posted By: 36251
Originally Posted By: newbert
I'm receiving my new digital piano tomorrow (Yamaha DGX640), which was purchased online.

Is there anything specific to check out on it (other than just playing it and making all of the keys work, etc)? Are there particular functions that tend to fail early on and should be checked?

Thanks!
Cheap non-weighted keys. Not a good instrument to learn piano on. Can find in every state on Craigslist.


I'm going to chime in here also because I think its important that a new player be comfortable in their choice of instrument.

Its possible that 36251 is thinking about other similar Yamaha models with a synth type unweighted keys. They are cheap and unplayable for piano.

But the DGX640 does have GHS, which is definitely a usable action for learners. Nothing wrong with it at all. Personally I prefer the GH, but GHS is good and many people like it.

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#2015472 - 01/16/13 01:00 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: newbert]
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Bert:

I think you will be very pleased. One of things I like to do with new computer stuff is leave it on for a 24 hour period just for "burn in" time, weak components often fail very early. I also think that it is common for people on the Internet to speak about things they know nothing about, and apparently 36251 is one of them when it comes to your piano.

One of the things I've found if you are going to use midi with it is to make sure you let the computer disconnect the midi, just don't unplug it. I'm using windows7 64 bit and the first time I did not do that it gave me a problem starting my DAW interface.

Let us know how you like your new EP.
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#2015505 - 01/16/13 01:54 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: D7K]
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Bert:

I think you will be very pleased. One of things I like to do with new computer stuff is leave it on for a 24 hour period just for "burn in" time, weak components often fail very early. I also think that it is common for people on the Internet to speak about things they know nothing about, and apparently 36251 is one of them when it comes to your piano.

One of the things I've found if you are going to use midi with it is to make sure you let the computer disconnect the midi, just don't unplug it. I'm using windows7 64 bit and the first time I did not do that it gave me a problem starting my DAW interface.

Let us know how you like your new EP.
YUP, I spoke too soon. I've seen similar models and none of them have weighted action. I guess Yamaha makes many models like that, design wise. If it has weighted action then I agree it would be a good starter piano. Just don't get wrapped up in all the 1-note chord accompany stuff if serious about learning.
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#2015526 - 01/16/13 02:41 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: 36251]
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36251 - my post sounds a little harsh, I didn't mean to offend only to point out that some times you have to evaluate carefully what is presented as fact on the net.



Edited by D7K (01/16/13 03:33 PM)
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#2015542 - 01/16/13 03:04 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: D7K]
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36251 - my post sounds a little harsh, I didn't mean to offend only to point out that sounds times you have to evaluate carefully what is presented as fact on the net.

no problemo - not offended. I really didn't know Yamaha made so many different models that look like the toys I've tried in the past. I do think that if someone really wants to be serious about learning piano, and are planning on a digital piano, should get a professional model without all the 1-note auto play stuff. Something to grow into.
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#2015559 - 01/16/13 03:23 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: 36251]
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Originally Posted By: 36251
Originally Posted By: D7K
36251 - my post sounds a little harsh, I didn't mean to offend only to point out that sounds times you have to evaluate carefully what is presented as fact on the net.

no problemo - not offended. I really didn't know Yamaha made so many different models that look like the toys I've tried in the past. I do think that if someone really wants to be serious about learning piano, and are planning on a digital piano, should get a professional model without all the 1-note auto play stuff. Something to grow into.


Many keyboards with built in accompaniment have more options for the left hand other than one finger. IIRC this model allows full keyboard for the left hand even while using the accompanying styles. I'm not trying to argue with you because I understand your point--but some of us like arranger options.
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#2015789 - 01/16/13 09:08 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: D7K]
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Bert:

I think you will be very pleased. One of things I like to do with new computer stuff is leave it on for a 24 hour period just for "burn in" time, weak components often fail very early. I also think that it is common for people on the Internet to speak about things they know nothing about, and apparently 36251 is one of them when it comes to your piano.

One of the things I've found if you are going to use midi with it is to make sure you let the computer disconnect the midi, just don't unplug it. I'm using windows7 64 bit and the first time I did not do that it gave me a problem starting my DAW interface.

Let us know how you like your new EP.


Thanks for that tip, Jeff. I will definitely leave it on for an extended period. (Wouldn't have thought of doing that myself....)

Regarding MIDI -- I do intend to connect it to my Windows 7 - 64 bit laptop and use "Band-in-the-Box" software.....eventually. (I need to get up to some semblance of speed with straight piano playing first.) What do you mean by "letting the computer disconnect the MIDI"? ie - Why would you disconnect the MIDI at all? <confused>.

Thanks again!
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#2015792 - 01/16/13 09:12 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: 36251]
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......Just don't get wrapped up in all the 1-note chord accompany stuff if serious about learning.


Oh, I agree 100% with this. I want to first improve my "pure piano" playing and only then start including some of the other features of the keyboard into it. (But of course, I'll play a bit with it to see what it's all about....)

Thanks.


Edited by newbert (01/16/13 09:12 PM)
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#2016034 - 01/17/13 10:14 AM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: newbert]
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There should be two or three decent pianos on there, man. Add reverb; it makes a lot of difference. You can store the settings in the instrument`s memory banks!

Happy fishing. There`s a lorra lorra good stuff in there! AND - The 3 pedal option! WOW!
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#2016235 - 01/17/13 04:26 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: newbert]
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I always use the USB "safe to remove equipment" Icon/Button and turn my piano off. When I just unplugged the usb connection and turn off the computer I got an error message. If you unconnect your piano that is what I would recommend. Also watch for the auto shutoff on the piano if plan to "burn it in", the default on my p105 is 30 minutes before it turns off.
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#2016256 - 01/17/13 05:20 PM Re: Checking Out a New Digital Piano? [Re: D7K]
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I'm "burning it in" as I type this. Going on 19 hours at the moment. I'm not aware that the DGX640 has an auto-shutoff. (It may, but I haven't encountered it in my readings yet....)

Thanks.
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