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#2012992 - 01/11/13 05:46 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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BeccaBb, what wonderful news!
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#2012998 - 01/11/13 05:58 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Sounds promising!

:-) onwards and upwards.
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#2012999 - 01/11/13 06:00 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Sounds promising!

:-) onwards and upwards.
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#2013002 - 01/11/13 06:10 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Becca,

Glad it went well.

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What makes keys feel like they squish down btw?


Thats the squishing of the mouse's tail under the key...its how he knows it is time for him to strike the string with his hammer. grin

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#2013437 - 01/12/13 01:07 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Thanks guys!

Jim, that poor mouse! I imagine it would squeak really bad every time we hit a key too! LOL
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#2013443 - 01/12/13 01:23 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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I was there for almost 45 minutes and because I'm working again I'm going to full time! Four times a month. I'm very happy so far.


I'm so glad you got on well with her Becca. Sounds like she will teach you to play piano and not just play songs. yippie Not to say that's all you're doing now.

When I first started with my teacher she was much too nice to me. After we discussed my goals, she willingly tells me when I have any issues hindering my progress. Technique, tempo, dynamics etc, and is so gratious about it.
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#2013444 - 01/12/13 01:25 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: JimF]
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Originally Posted By: JimF
Thats the squishing of the mouse's tail under the key...its how he knows it is time for him to strike the string with his hammer. grin

String? I thought it was different sized mice squeaking!

Congratulations, Becca. Great news.
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#2013522 - 01/12/13 03:33 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Sounds like a fine start, Becca. It's great that you're going to try this weekly, and great that your head is spinning with new ideas and ways to practice.

What you call squishiness on a Yamaha grand versus your digital piano may be something "aftertouch." It's an adjustable component of the hammer's let-off point on a good piano that gives you as a player more control, yet could feel spongy (or as you say, squishy) until you get used to it. It's a good thing.

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#2013533 - 01/12/13 04:03 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Is a Yamaha grand an acoustic piano?

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#2013894 - 01/13/13 11:56 AM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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LOL yes her Yamaha baby grand is an acoustic. smile

Thanks everyone. My head is spinning is probably the best description of it. smile Practice is going well so far. Working on two new songs, polishing three other ones, some theory and sightreading work, plus working on my composition!

I'm a busy at the keys!
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#2013901 - 01/13/13 12:12 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Acoustic - was pretty sure but wanted to check.

I've got this picture in my head. Actually I'm doing it: Take a longish object like a soup spoon. Support it with your right finger underneath about 2/3 to the right, like it's the lever of a lopsided teeter totter. Push on the short end with your left finger like pushing a teeter totter. You might get something bouncy going that feels a bit like the squishy keys. --- The keys on an acoustic work through a set of levers. As you start to push down, the weight of the lever underneath is pushing back against you, but at some point you send it flying and that weight disappears. At that point it sends the hammer flying at the string which creates the sound. That let-off point is part ways down.

A digital piano's keys are weighted in a way to mimic this somewhat, but that mechanism isn't there. There are electronic sensors that kick in when the piano key is almost at the bottom, whereas on an acoustic that point is higher up. (I have a DP, and this is one thing I don't like about it.)

There is a difference again between grand pianos and uprights, because the construction of one is vertical, and the other is horizontal, and all of these things work along gravity. (This was explained to me a few months back.)

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#2014417 - 01/14/13 12:33 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: Peter K. Mose]
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Originally Posted By: Peter K. Mose

What you call squishiness on a Yamaha grand versus your digital piano may be something "aftertouch."

Found an article that includes an explanation of "aftertouch". Though now I'm confused because it seems to be something found in spinets and some electronic keyboards, but not acoustics with flying hammers. (?)

Wikki article

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#2014425 - 01/14/13 12:49 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: keystring]
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Aftertouch Link fixed:


Apparently what is sometimes called aftertouch on electronic keyboards is not the same as what is called aftertouch on acoustic pianos. Here is what the article says about electronic keyboards:
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On electronic keyboards and synthesizers, pressure sensitivity is sometimes called aftertouch. The aftertouch sensors detect whether the musician is continuing to exert pressure after the initial strike of the key. The aftertouch feature allows keyboard players to change the tone or sound of a note after it is struck, the way that singers, wind players, or bowed instrument players can do.

This is not a feature available on acoustic pianos, although I think something like it did exist on clavichords, because on a clavichord the tangent stays in contact with the string as long as the key is held down.

The article doesn't seem to say anything about aftertouch on acoustic pianos.


Edited by PianoStudent88 (01/14/13 12:53 PM)
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#2014432 - 01/14/13 12:57 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Here is something describing aftertouch on an acoustic piano. I googled "piano aftertouch" (not just "aftertouch") to find this.
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#2014497 - 01/14/13 02:53 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Excellent information. Thanks!

Guess that squishy feeling is too much acoustic aftertouch then. Mystery solved!
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#2015695 - 01/16/13 06:25 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Hey Paul, how did your lesson go?
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#2016174 - 01/17/13 02:32 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Had my second lesson. I'm now learning how to play Heart and Soul so I can duet with my teacher, am learning 3 new scales, and new scale pattern (formation?) and the coolest homework of all, play through my books till I find something I can't sightread!

We both agree the stuff I'm doing is too easy and boring. smile So experiment with tons of song time.. I love this teacher!
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#2016178 - 01/17/13 02:39 PM Re: Trying a new teacher... [Re: BeccaBb]
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Excellent BeccaBb, I can feel your excitement!
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