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#2018053 - 01/20/13 09:38 PM Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions
eyes Offline
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Hi, pretty new to the forum here. Being doing a lot of reading but just finally getting to posting.


Anyways, we have recently been in the market for a "beginner" baby grand piano. I used to be a piano major in college before switching so I was spoiled on large Steinway's, Yamaha's, etc...
Haven't played except for keyboard at church, in a rock band, etc... in about 7 years. I really only have about $5k to spend. And I'm firm on my budget. So we have looked seriously at many pianos and I have been particularly interested in a lightly used 5'4" George Steck (pretty bright but big sound), a new 5' Schiller (Jim Laabs brand made by Irmler from what I can tell from info here in the forums), a new 4'10" Steinbach (bank seized so I believe it's new old stock from before it become Alex Steinbach), and a local Young Chang G-157 Pramberger Signature Series (5'2") being sold locally. I've played a LOT of pianos and particularly liked the sound of these 4 pianos. I like a medium to brighter sound. The YC, George Steck, Steinbach are all brighter pianos naturally from what I have researched, and the Schiller's seemed to vary greatly from one to the other but I found one that was brighter that I really like the sound of.


Young Chang Serial Number is YG0129119.


I would like to know from the serial number on the Young Chang 1) when it was made and 2) what would be a reasonable price to pay for it? I've read anywhere from $1,500-$6,000 depending on age. From what I can gather, the person bought it around the year 2000 - they claim brand new - and they are asking $4,400. It hasn't been tuned in many many years but has held it's tone pretty well considering. It may need some minor pedal work but there are no significant other problems. Obviously I would have a piano tuner/tech check it out before paying on the piano. But when I can get those other pianos listed above brand new for around $4,500 including delivery, tuning, and warranty, I can't really see paying $4,400 for a 13 year old YC Pramberger and then another $300 for moving and probably $200-400 for a couple of tunings (since it hasn't been tuned in forever) and maybe some minor setup/pedal work.



Thoughts, opinions? I don't know if I'm wayyy off on the Young Chang or if $4,400 is really fair or really unreasonable. I think I like the sound of it just marginally better than the other 3 pianos listed above but not so much that if one was $500-$1,000 on sale that I wouldn't seriously consider the other. I realize that I'm not going to get a Steinway or Yamaha sound or anything close to it at $5k and under but at this point I would rather be playing a decent piano than no piano at all. I can't bear to let my talent get any more rusty!


THANK YOU all in advance for your help.


Edited by eyes (01/20/13 09:39 PM)

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#2018057 - 01/20/13 09:50 PM Re: Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions [Re: eyes]
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eyes,

You, like most new posters, do not show where you are aka market area. The price differences of market areas is significant. Just ask the people in New Zealand.
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#2018063 - 01/20/13 10:05 PM Re: Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions [Re: eyes]
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Woops, knew I forgot something....

I'm in Wisconsin, USA.

Thanks

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#2018144 - 01/21/13 02:25 AM Re: Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions [Re: eyes]
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I can't comment on prices as I don't know for your region.

But the fact they neglected the tuning on the Young Chang might mean they neglicted all maintenance. You mentioned a problem with the pedal... I know the tech can tell you the whole story but you've got to hire him first. If you truly like the tone and touch of the others just as much then I'd say skip the Young Chang.
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#2018267 - 01/21/13 10:02 AM Re: Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions [Re: musicpassion]
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Originally Posted By: musicpassion
I can't comment on prices as I don't know for your region.

But the fact they neglected the tuning on the Young Chang might mean they neglicted all maintenance. You mentioned a problem with the pedal... I know the tech can tell you the whole story but you've got to hire him first. If you truly like the tone and touch of the others just as much then I'd say skip the Young Chang.


I was thinking along the lines of the same thing but the other side of the coin is that if it hadn't been tuned in forever and it still was pretty decently sounding/decently in tune that it probably holds a tune very very well. That same day we looked at a Sammick 5'3" that hadn't been tuned in a long time but had been tuned more recently. It was so far off that I doubt it will ever keep a tune again. It wasn't off parts of a step, it was off steps, literally... RAN away from that one.

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#2018292 - 01/21/13 10:36 AM Re: Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions [Re: eyes]
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I'd have a technician examine the YC. If it passes muster offer the $4400 less whatever the tech estimates it will take to optimize its performance.
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#2018485 - 01/21/13 03:39 PM Re: Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions [Re: eyes]
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but the other side of the coin is that if it hadn't been tuned in forever and it still was pretty decently sounding/decently in tune that it probably holds a tune very very well.

Maybe. And if there is something about the Young Chang that is drawing you back to it, then that's reason enough to hire a tech to look at it.


Edited by musicpassion (01/21/13 03:40 PM)
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#2020845 - 01/25/13 01:15 AM Re: Young Chang Pramberger Value/Age and other questions [Re: eyes]
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Anyone? Still haven't gotten an answer on the age from the serial number or opinions on the price for Wisconsin.

THANKS

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