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#2019713 - 01/23/13 03:28 PM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
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How does "a historic occasion" differ from "an historic occasion" with respect to number agreement with the noun?.... You're surely right. There's no possible issue of 'agreement in number.'
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#2019745 - 01/23/13 04:31 PM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: BruceD]
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Remember diagramming sentences in English class? I believe that affectations such as "AN historic occasion" are an effort to make the article agree in number with the noun, [...] How does "a historic occasion" differ from "an historic occasion" with respect to number agreement with the noun? It's a question of the (perceived) vowel quality of the "h" in historic, isn't it? Similarly, one would say : "a grand piano" but "an expensive piano;" the agreement remains singular between the indefinite article and the noun. Regards, Of course, even I knew that and I usually have no idea about any grammar or usage questions that appear(for no good reason) at PW.
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#2019858 - 01/23/13 07:10 PM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: pianoloverus]
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This "an" or "a" grammatical usage has got me very confused and perplexed.
Are you guys saying it is incorrect to use "an" in a sentence like say for example: "He was an histrionic pedant?"
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#2019877 - 01/23/13 07:31 PM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: Rostosky]
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This "an" or "a" grammatical usage has got me very confused and perplexed.
Are you guys saying it is incorrect to use "an" in a sentence like say for example: "He was an histrionic pedant?" It's quite simply a question of "a" before a consonant and "an" before a vowel. The word following "a" or "an" can be a noun or an adjective or an adverb. An emperor. A stupid emperor! An insufferable emperor! An incredibly stupid emperor! In all examples, "emperor" is singular and so are "a" and "an." "Histrionic," "historic," and similar words are considered by some to begin with non-aspirated, or silent "h" - even though the "h" is pronounced! - in which case those persons would speak and write "an historic occasion" - considered by some to be pedantic. Such words as "hour," "honor," "honesty," do begin with a non-aspirated "h" so one would always write : "See you in an hour." It's an honor to know you." etc. ... Regards,
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#2019925 - 01/23/13 09:05 PM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: BruceD]
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.....although..... I imagine lots of us are familiar with this album (which I still have the LP of): ....although another Amazon page for it calls it "A" Historic Return.  And of course this doesn't prove anything, because we'd probably consider the album title pedantic.
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#2020025 - 01/24/13 12:37 AM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
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Basebaul.
Please, btb. Get it right!
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#2020031 - 01/24/13 12:41 AM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
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#2020032 - 01/24/13 12:41 AM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
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Basebrawl.
Doh! Whatever...
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#2020038 - 01/24/13 12:48 AM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: btb]
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I challenge anyone to rearrange the title of this thread so that it does not end with a preposition. It's not Bach, but this is a nice performance of a sarabande, in period costume. Sarabande by Il Giardino Harmonico
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#2020053 - 01/24/13 01:33 AM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: Ferdinand]
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I challenge anyone to rearrange the title of this thread so that it does not end with a preposition. "Should one dance to the Bach Dance Suites?" "Were the Bach Dance Suites intended for dancing occasions? "Perchance upon a pretty lass / when all you've got is a good Bach polonass / what's a lad to do / but to run the whole suite through?" ... I should probably get some sleep XD
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#2020055 - 01/24/13 01:37 AM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: pianoloverus]
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You could just drop the last "to" and I think the meaning would still be clear. Or, may I suggest, "Were they meant to be danced to, the bach suites?
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#2020090 - 01/24/13 03:38 AM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: pianoloverus]
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Were the Bach dance suites intended for actual dancing?
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#2020348 - 01/24/13 01:15 PM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: pianoloverus]
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How much more of this do we have to up with put?  Cheers!
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#2020567 - 01/24/13 04:55 PM
Re: Were the Bach Dance Suites meant to be danced to?
[Re: currawong]
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Were the Bach dance suites intended for actual dancing?  Most folks just try to rearrange the words, but it's usually easy to just change the words. For instance, instead of saying "for what" as opposed to "what for", you can simply ask "why".
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