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#2023892 - 01/30/13 08:07 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: toddy]
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Originally Posted By: toddy

Really?? That makes professionals look petty, superficially minded and monstrously conservative if this is the real reason they would not use those keyboards.


Maybe but it's a fact ... Image is important often more important then the music ... It's how you get Keisha


Yes, fair enough - it's true. But what do you mean by Keisha? Wiki lists these possibilities:


Keisha Buchanan, a singer-songwriter
Keisha Castle-Hughes, a film actress
Keisha Jackson, an R&B singer
Heather Keisha Hunter, major porn star, minor rap artist
Keisha Kane, a porn star
Keisha White, an R&B singer
Keisha-Dean Soffe, a weightlifter
Keisha (Raquel Rene Rios), a porn star


Try ke$ha .....you should know her considering she's got a Juno 60 wink
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#2023919 - 01/30/13 09:00 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Sugababes? Keisha Buchanan born in 1984...same year as the Juno 60, afaicr.

My Juno 60 was sold years ago - went towards the ESQ1, probably.
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#2023945 - 01/30/13 09:50 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Nah if you don't know the Kesha I'm talking bout don't worry ... Your lucky
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#2023948 - 01/30/13 09:56 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Dr Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Dr Popper
Nah if you don't know the Kesha I'm talking bout don't worry ... Your lucky


Hear, hear. And let this be the last we speak of her...

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#2023952 - 01/30/13 09:59 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Well, thank you for the advice, and I'll look no further....but yes - I haven't got a clue who you're talking about. smile
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#2023972 - 01/30/13 10:43 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: o0Ampy0o]
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Originally Posted By: galaxy4t
Mike,
Does that mean that it has synth patches like the PX-350. Can you load new sounds into it or are you only able to edit the onboard sounds? Will there be firmware updates that will enhance this product?


It has individual synth patches with full editing and insert effects. You change the sound of everything. Each category of sound has user banks. Firmware updates are possible but not guaranteed.

Mike,

Does this mean that you will not be able to load new sounds or share user sounds? Watching you in one of the videos I thought you described that you would be able to load new sounds and that Casio would have sound libraries at some point. (It is all a blur, reading comments and watching videos, so I could be confused. It would take a lot of time to study everything I have read to find references to post confused ).


Each category of tones has a user area for custom versions. So any variations you make can be saved and also saved to a USB drive.

What is particularly unique about the PX-5S is that Stage Settings will contain all of the necessary components. In other words, if I build a Stage Setting that has 4 zones and I adjust all 4 of the sounds that are being used, create a custom arpeggio and more...all of that is stored within the Stage Setting. This makes it very easy to share complex configurations.
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#2024021 - 01/30/13 12:19 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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I'm rather intrigued with the concept of the black and white look of the PX-5s, but I really wish that Casio had done it with the swank of a tuxedo. Black with white trim, or white with black trim would have looked a lot better than this.

Well at least there will be no mistaking who's playing a Casio from now on. And I'm sure we'll all get used to it. It's gonna be in a lot of rigs, so I guess we'd better wink

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#2024407 - 01/31/13 02:26 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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It's Ke$ha, without an "i" ...

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#2024949 - 01/31/13 11:33 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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1) Does the PX-5S have the short initial decay problem that another member said the PX-150/350 has?

2) I am mainly interested in the grand piano sound, does the PX-5S come with a improved grand piano sound than the PX-150/350? Or the same thing?

3) What pedal does the PX-5S some with?


Edited by adak (02/01/13 01:12 AM)
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#2024961 - 01/31/13 11:59 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: adak]
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The PX-5S has the same AP sample as the the rest of the new line of Casios. I think you have more control to edit and shape the sounds on it. And it seems that new sounds can be loaded into it. As far as the pedal,it probably comes with the standard SP-3. As far as the sustain of the sample, it is improved over the last generation and all older Casios. However, it clearly doesn't please everybody.


Edited by galaxy4t (02/01/13 12:02 AM)

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#2024982 - 02/01/13 12:40 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: galaxy4t]
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I have been listening to YouTube videos of the PX-150 to try and hear it. Does the PX-150 and PX-5S both have such alleged problems?

I do want a definite reply from people who have played the piano and others as well to do a comparison.
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#2024992 - 02/01/13 01:20 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: adak]
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Adak,
The only real way to assess if this will be a problem for you is to play it yourself. Youtube videos are not a reliable way to determine this. I don't rely on the audio from a youtube clip to be the judge and jury of the sound quality of an instrument. It has definite limitations. The only way to properly assess the Casio is to play it in person and bring a good pair of headphones with you. That way you can compare the sound between other pianos for yourself. And don't forget to pay attention to how the action feels. That is more important than the sound. Other people's opinions are useful, but take them with a grain of salt. In the end, you must decide for yourself based on what you like or don't like and can afford.


Edited by galaxy4t (02/01/13 01:25 AM)

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#2025211 - 02/01/13 10:43 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: adak]
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Originally Posted By: adak
I have been listening to YouTube videos of the PX-150 to try and hear it. Does the PX-150 and PX-5S both have such alleged problems?

I do want a definite reply from people who have played the piano and others as well to do a comparison.

The alleged problem exists in the PX-150. Since the PX-5S pianos sounds are based on those of the 150/350, it will probably be the same in this respect, but the 5S could have some subtle changes, or at least, more user adjustments which may provide a different effect. You'll have a hard time getting a "definite reply from someone who has played one" since it's not in production yet. The only person here who has played one is Mike from Casio, but even what he has played has been a prototype.

For those of us who are sensitive to this "problem" (in quotes because, again, not everyone sees this as a problem), you can hear it in some Chopin demos Mike posted at http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1967338/14.html - and you'll see in that very thread that people think they sound just fine! Remember that people don't even always agree on which real acoustic pianos sound better than which. So I would say, if those samples sound good to you, I expect you'll be very happy with whichever current Casio model you select. Of course, playing them yourself will be the final arbiter.

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#2025246 - 02/01/13 11:31 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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I think it would be a mistake to judge the piano in the PX-5S based on the pianos in any of the other models. Our ability shape this sound and contour its response is quite remarkable. We can make it play the same as the PX-850, but we can also make it play and feel dramatically different. We still have about 2 months before the PX-5S ships so between now and then I'll get into some more detail.
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#2025318 - 02/01/13 01:22 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Is the Air processing for the AP on the PX5 fully unlocked, meaning with all the added resonance and simulation effects that the more expensive models utilize (like the 850). Or is it "limited" to a few extra effects in he same way as the px150.

Mmmm ...prototype unit on NAMM, few months more development. Any room for aesthetic design improvements ? It's the only drawback I can currently think of about the px5, for the rest it seems a very impressive piece of gear.

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#2025326 - 02/01/13 01:38 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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JFP,
The PX-5S goes into production in a couple weeks. I was trying to say that we have a couple months to answer your questions and get demos online before it arrives in stores.
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#2025329 - 02/01/13 01:41 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Roll on px6? wink

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#2025352 - 02/01/13 02:43 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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And the Air AP processing. Can we expect the same resonance and added effects for the AP as on the px850 ?

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#2025364 - 02/01/13 03:01 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: JFP]
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And the Air AP processing. Can we expect the same resonance and added effects for the AP as on the px850 ?


Fully enabled and variable. More control than the PX-850
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#2025389 - 02/01/13 03:38 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Cool !!!

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#2025390 - 02/01/13 03:41 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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I wonder how long until GC stocks the PX-5S instead of the PX-3?

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#2025393 - 02/01/13 03:47 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Well according to Mike it goes in production in a couple of weeks. Add shipping and distribution and I would say two months ??

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#2025398 - 02/01/13 03:52 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: JFP]
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Is the Air processing for the AP on the PX5 fully unlocked, meaning with all the added resonance and simulation effects that the more expensive models utilize (like the 850). Or is it "limited" to a few extra effects in he same way as the px150.

I'm sure Mike regrets using that word! Check the page again..

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1929041/4.html

Nothing was literally "locked" in previous versions, in the sense of "there, but disabled." The 850 did have other features that they were able to implement using the same chip. Likewise, the PX-5S will have features that the 850 didn't have... but that doesn't mean these features were "locked out" in the 850. So "fully unlocked" doesn't really mean anything, there's no specific list of features in the chip to turn on or off, they are just continuing to engineer improvements into higher end and newer models, using their AIR technology,

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#2025849 - 02/02/13 11:16 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Mike_Martin]
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No music stand! Mike, where I can put my real book ??? ... What a disaster...

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#2025903 - 02/02/13 01:03 PM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Mike_Martin]
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JFP,
The PX-5S goes into production in a couple weeks.


Wow! That puts enormous pressure on finalizing the presets. Who's doing that - you guys or is it being done in Japan? Is there a specific date set where that's it and nothing else can be changed?

Just wondering how the mechanics of a mass produced rollout like this work.

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#2027264 - 02/05/13 03:55 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: o0Ampy0o]
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Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o

From the stage angle (backside) it looks decent enough.







Looks like an external power supply. What are the chances of getting an internal power supply? I wouldn't mind paying extra money for it.


Edited by adak (02/05/13 04:15 AM)
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#2027271 - 02/05/13 04:49 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: adak]
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Originally Posted By: adak



Looks like an external power supply. What are the chances of getting an internal power supply? I wouldn't mind paying extra money for it.


shocked wow
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#2027273 - 02/05/13 04:54 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Well: 0 % chance...; they could throw out the batteries and build a power unit in there, but batteries is one of the sales arguments for the PX5.

Perhaps if you indicate exactly how much extra money you'll be willing to fork over , they will be convinced to do it ;-)

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#2027313 - 02/05/13 08:07 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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Mod it yourself. Put the external power unit inside. Make sure it's not going to overheat etc. Oops about the warranty.

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#2027316 - 02/05/13 08:20 AM Re: Thank you Mike Martin for the PX5S [Re: Rhodie73]
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One thing that's nice about the newer external power supplies that Casio uses is that they are not "wall warts" -- instead they are the "lump in the middle" style, with a removable power cord of common design. It would be cool if the power supply were small enough to fit in the battery compartment. (And you could even cut a hole for the power cord itself.) If you could leave it in there, you'd never worry about leaving it behind! I doubt it will be quite that small, though. (There would also be the question of whether the power supply, if operated so close to the electronics, might induce any hum/buzz problems in some situations.)

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