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#2021423 - 01/26/13 12:03 AM
Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
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#2021479 - 01/26/13 03:14 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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The writer of this article comes off like a donkey. He just lays into the artist, and obviously doesn't understand anything. He should get a job.
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#2021483 - 01/26/13 03:53 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
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The writer of this article comes off like a donkey. He just lays into the artist, and obviously doesn't understand anything. He should get a job. It didn't seem he laid into Lupu at all to me, though, clearly the author doesn't understand acoustics. Parts of the review were rather laughable.
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#2021487 - 01/26/13 04:18 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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Hi Stores.
"every run that has lost some definition" "lack of ideas" "repertory newer to him"
This article drips disdain. The critic seems like a college kid getting his kicks.
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#2021571 - 01/26/13 10:20 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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The review is also factually incorrect. He says:
"Those discriminating men must rise from their gramophones and go hear Mr. Lupu live to be updated on the composers whose work he has never recorded. Among them are Franck and Debussy..."
In fact, Lupu has recorded BOTH Franck and Debussy. They even appear on the same album, a recording of the two composers' violin sonatas with Kyung Wha Chung.
Bad research from Mr. Woolfe, I guess.
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#2021603 - 01/26/13 11:22 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
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Hi Stores.
"every run that has lost some definition" "lack of ideas" "repertory newer to him"
This article drips disdain. The critic seems like a college kid getting his kicks. "For every run that has lost some definition there is another that has grown brighter and crisper.""His silken take on the impromptus was so absorbing as pure sound that it was easy to be distracted from its lack of ideas." "Mr. Lupu was more fascinating in the repertory newer to him."
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#2021612 - 01/26/13 11:46 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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#2021667 - 01/26/13 01:28 PM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
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Hi Stores.
"every run that has lost some definition" "lack of ideas" "repertory newer to him"
This article drips disdain. The critic seems like a college kid getting his kicks. "For every run that has lost some definition there is another that has grown brighter and crisper.""His silken take on the impromptus was so absorbing as pure sound that it was easy to be distracted from its lack of ideas." "Mr. Lupu was more fascinating in the repertory newer to him." "Lack of ideas" but "so absorbing as pure sound". This is like a scene in a movie where a fashion snob says with an o' so subtle smirk to a plain jane "I just love your new hair-do, it is pure ... pure fashion." This article drips disdain.
Edited by landorrano (01/26/13 01:30 PM)
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#2021685 - 01/26/13 01:52 PM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: landorrano]
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"Lack of ideas" but "so absorbing as pure sound".
This is like a scene in a movie where a fashion snob says with an o' so subtle smirk to a plain jane "I just love your new hair-do, it is pure ... pure fashion."
This article drips disdain.
I thought the reference to 'lack of ideas' to mean the music, not the performer: ''its lack of ideas", not his lack of ideas.
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#2021759 - 01/26/13 04:57 PM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
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"Lack of ideas" but "so absorbing as pure sound".
This is like a scene in a movie where a fashion snob says with an o' so subtle smirk to a plain jane "I just love your new hair-do, it is pure ... pure fashion."
This article drips disdain.
I thought the reference to 'lack of ideas' to mean the music, not the performer: ''its lack of ideas", not his lack of ideas. Correct. I think at least one person needs to read the review again.
Edited by stores (01/26/13 04:57 PM)
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#2021837 - 01/26/13 07:43 PM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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I was lucky to hear Radu Lupu play on Thursday and, for me, it was entrancing. 'Andromaque' is right about the mesmerizing and idiosyncratic quality... He also has an odd, still stage presence -- he doesn't seem to be there for the audience and barely acknowledged the crowd. But the sounds he created from that piano were pure magic and I thought he had an amazing sense of melodic line and shape.
I could see how the NYT review was a bit mixed. The Schubert had a few odd moments which might have been jarring to some. Mostly lovely, though. The Franck was stunning, and the Debussy was totally dreamy. I almost forgot to breathe during his encore, also Debussy I think.
The crowd seemed a little mixed too. I think most were begging for just a little more, while a puzzlingly large number were heading for the door after the Debussy Preludes. They were, awkwardly, stopped in their tracks by Lupu's lovely encore. Anyone who actually made it out the door totally missed a treat!
Another review of Lupu's performance seemed more appreciative of his gifts: [http://www.bachtrack.com/reviews/view/2165] In particular, this reviewer (David Allen) said:
"He has a unique sound, seeming to breathe with the concert hall's very air." -AND- "With Lupu, it is the sound that fascinates. He seems rarely to produce from his Steinway. Rather, the sound emanates, often in a hazy (but in no way vague) texture, and with a quietness that defies physics to spread to the back of the hall. Incredible lightness of touch is somehow married to cavernous depth of tone, with keys depressed so truly that Lupu is able to control the sound long after other pianists have given up. That emanating sound ruminates, lamenting its own transience and yet remaining seraphic. When silkiness gives way to a bear's fist of power in the instrument's lowest octaves, as in this recital's Franck, Lupu fully reveals that his command of the piano might be gossamer to the touch, but it is impregnable underneath."
This was my first time to Carnegie Hall (Sprang for a box seat! fabulous and fun!), and I definitely felt fortunate to hear Radu Lupu play on my first experience. A fascinating and beautiful evening. My ears are still happy.
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#2021866 - 01/26/13 08:41 PM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: kwoli]
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Another review of Lupu's performance seemed more appreciative of his gifts: [http://www.bachtrack.com/reviews/view/2165] In particular, this reviewer (David Allen) said:
"He has a unique sound, seeming to breathe with the concert hall's very air." -AND- "With Lupu, it is the sound that fascinates. He seems rarely to produce from his Steinway. Rather, the sound emanates, often in a hazy (but in no way vague) texture, and with a quietness that defies physics to spread to the back of the hall. Incredible lightness of touch is somehow married to cavernous depth of tone, with keys depressed so truly that Lupu is able to control the sound long after other pianists have given up. That emanating sound ruminates, lamenting its own transience and yet remaining seraphic. When silkiness gives way to a bear's fist of power in the instrument's lowest octaves, as in this recital's Franck, Lupu fully reveals that his command of the piano might be gossamer to the touch, but it is impregnable underneath." I find that review almost hysterical in its level of BS and its lack of any real meaning. 1. What is a sound that "breathes with hall's air"? 2. What are "keys depressed so truly"? 3. "That emanating sound ruminates, lamenting its own transience and yet remaining seraphic." The reviewer needs a shovel. 4. "He seems rarely to produce from his Steinway." Is he playing a Yamaha or maybe a kazoo?
Edited by pianoloverus (01/26/13 08:43 PM)
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#2021886 - 01/26/13 09:27 PM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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Haha. That guy is a flowery writer to be sure. BS or descriptive -- sometimes it's a fine line. Believe it or not, behind the florid prose, seemed to me that he captured the essence of the evening. I know it sounds funny/ridiculous to say "breathes with the hall's air" but Lupu sort of did that... He has a unique sound which I am sure I would fail to describe properly. Guess you had to be there. And glad you had a laugh at least.
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#2021957 - 01/27/13 02:03 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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I've read far more illuminating reviews here on the Forum, from people who really know the piano. This NYT reviewer gets too wrapped up in his elaborate prose and loses his message as a consequence. And why shouldn't Lupu sound different listening to him on speakers than live in a concert hall? Everyone should sound different when recording through mics, amplifiers, soundboards, and then played through home speakers.
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#2021985 - 01/27/13 04:58 AM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
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I almost forgot to breathe during his encore Lovely. By the way, the quote from the David Allen review is lovely too. Just to split hairs, though: the use of the word "ruminate" in english is curious to european ears !
Edited by landorrano (01/27/13 05:11 AM)
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#2022247 - 01/27/13 03:27 PM
Re: Radu Lupu Carnegie Hall Review
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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I feel over the last 5 years the quality of recital reviews has diminished considerably so much so that I no longer look forward to reading them as I used to. The global NY Times reviews of European concerts are much more detailed and interesting to read nut the NY edition has lapsed into mediocrity.
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