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anotherscott #2016870 01/18/13 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by anotherscott
Hopefully it also has a standard 5-pin DIN MIDI port...


How else would you control your favourite [red] semi-weighted board?

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by anotherscott
Hopefully it also has a standard 5-pin DIN MIDI port...


How else would you control your favourite [red] semi-weighted board?

Cheers,
James
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Mais oui!

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Hopefully it also has a standard 5-pin DIN MIDI port...


How else would you control your favourite [red] semi-weighted board?

Cheers,
James
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Mais oui!


det är rätt! wink


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Wow, many thanks for the suggestions Pedro - I'm going to have to check out some of those artists this morning. ;)x


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvDyVH-OIx8

A 'sample' of how she sings. This first one is an arrange of one of stevie wonder's music. And below there's one of the Brazilian songs she sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvyrWIyZYPo&list=PLCD367792D1189F72&index=11


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But well, coming back to the VPC... James, it will come with some software in the shipping box? laugh


"But its got a crap keyboard action Dave ... no amount of great sounds help that."
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Pedro, I'm afraid I cannot reveal this information.

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Here's something from another thread:

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...just imagine a licence agreement between a red and a black company, so we could get a new [cough] with the Nord sound engine... Ah, daydreaming...


Yes, that would be pretty cool - especially if newly sampled Kawai/Shigeru Kawai sounds were also part of the deal. wink


Maybe it has something to do with the Kawai VPC? smile Nord engine within the VPC? wink


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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Pedro, I'm afraid I cannot reveal this information.

Kind regards,
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Actually, you can - just not right now!

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Right. wink


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The thing is, I bought a large format Epson scanner ~10 years ago for the Historical Society I volunteer for, really nice even now, almost $3k USD so it was a lot of dough for a tiny non-profit to shell out. It has a SCSI interface - I didn't want to go that route as I knew SCSI was inching towards the door at the time, but USB was just coming on the scene and it was pretty slow and not super well supported. Now trying to do a computer refresh and I can't buy a motherboard that will take the ancient SCSI adapter card (PC bus evolution). The old computer is unstable so I want to ditch it but not sure what to do. An internal USB card was made for the scanner but it seems no one bought it and so support is nil.

My dad had a newish HP scanner that he "lost" going from XP to Win7 (no drivers).

I have a parallel port oscilloscope that I "lost" when my new motherboard "lost" the parallel port. I have several expensive FPGA programmers I can't use for the same reason (USB to parallel adapter doesn't work because timing is too inexact).

I bought a used Yamaha FS1r with much functionality controllable only via MIDI & PC, many of the programs wouldn't run in my newish OS. Had even worse issues with the much newer Roland JV-1010 (spartan UI via the front panel, zero support on from Roland on the PC side after their initial lame effort).

Have an Echo MIA sound card in my PC, I fully expect to "lose" it when MS drops support for XP, along with a boat load of software I really depend on.

PC hardware / software / bus / interface / driver support is a chain with too many weak links for one to hold onto a product intimately bound to it for any length of time, and I've been burned by it too many times. I just want to buy some decent keys with some decent sounds and stop the nonsense already.

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dewster, fear not...it will have MIDI.


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Dewster:
a) For the large format scanner, if you can't get the PC repaired, have you tried advertising a "Wanted" ad to buy another PC from that era?

b) How much did that HP scanner cost for your father's PC? If it's expensive, can you just leave it attached to a PC running XP, and treat that XP PC as part of the scanner?

c) Can you install a PCI parallel port adaptor? If not, if why can't you use old PCs with that equipment, if that equipment is important to you? Why should old equipment have to support new computers?

d) Re: the Echo MIA, again - if it's that important, keep an old PC for it. I have an M-Audio Delta 66 (PCI based), and I doubt that it's supported any more either. It's a nice card, and it's still in an old white-box running XP.
CORRECTION: Yes, my Delta IS still supported up to Win7, although I doubt whether I'll be buying any more desktop PCs with a PCI interface - I don't even know whether desktops still have PCI. smile
EDIT: Hang on, the MIA is supported up to Win7, according to this: http://echoaudio.com/pages/windows-drivers Is that correct? If so, why are you worried about XP support? If you can't upgrade the OS because of your applications, why can't you keep using the apps you have on XP, with a version of the XP driver that works with those apps?

Greg.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
dewster, fear not...it will have MIDI.

Now hold on, aren't you violating some kind of NAMM secrecy act? wink

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Originally Posted by sullivang
Dewster:
a) For the large format scanner, if you can't get the PC repaired, have you tried advertising a "Wanted" ad to buy another PC from that era?

XP won't be patched for built-in MS security holes, etc. It's really not an option to run it at some point at a non-profit on a flaky PC after MS drops support. I do a bit of PC repair on the side and old PCs are the absolute worst and most expensive to maintain. Youngsters who use it kind of expect an update now and then.

Originally Posted by sullivang
d) Re: the Echo MIA, again - if it's that important, keep an old PC for it. I have an M-Audio Delta 66 (PCI based), and I doubt that it's supported any more either. It's a nice card, and it's still in an old white-box running XP.
CORRECTION: Yes, my Delta IS still supported up to Win7, although I doubt whether I'll be buying any more desktop PCs with a PCI interface - I don't even know whether desktops still have PCI. smile
EDIT: Hang on, the MIA is supported up to Win7, according to this: http://echoaudio.com/pages/windows-drivers Is that correct?

Thanks for doing that research for me! It's been so long since they updated drivers I thought ECHO had gone out of business. Hmm, searching for "echo" at Sweetwater brings no hits for them which is weird. Three of their units at ZZounds, a couple more at B&H. Maybe not looking so good for support lasting longer than the hardware I own and paid $100 for (and it works really well). Anyway, there's tons of moldering but perfectly good HW in garbage dumps due to "improved" SW and orphaned products due to lack of driver support. I'm starting to really hate proprietary OSes and applications - too much churn on the user side and for what, profit? Don't get me wrong, I'm not an anti-advancement luddite.

Originally Posted by sullivang
If so, why are you worried about XP support? If you can't upgrade the OS because of your applications, why can't you keep using the apps you have on XP, with a version of the XP driver that works with those apps?

Because it's networked. Next you'll be telling me to remove it from the network, which isn't really possible when thumb drives and such from other PCs which can be carrying viruses, malware, and other infections. MS products are a huge "kick me" sign for malware.

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You're exactly right - I was indeed going to suggest removing the old PCs from the network, and to use thumb drives. smile (I'd still do it - I've never had a virus and I would take that risk. I agree that it's a bit much to ask of that non-profit organisation though)

Btw - I forgot to say initially - I do think it sux that the HP didn't release drivers for Win7. (especially if it's a high end scanner - less so if it's a cheap one)

Greg.

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Originally Posted by sullivang
Btw - I forgot to say initially - I do think it sux that the HP didn't release drivers for Win7. (especially if it's a high end scanner - less so if it's a cheap one)

Greg.

I actually bought the Society a smaller format HP at the same time for higher resolution picture scans (the Epson only does 600dpi) and for negatives, etc. The HP cost slightly less, but was always a total dog. HP could not make a good driver at the time and I'm afraid to try them now from recent multifunction installation horror stories. My original HP Deskjet was quite the printing champ though, and my ancient HP calculator is still working, though all of the newer ones have failed - how the mighty have fallen. Those guys used to literally own the engineering world.

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I see that XP is still supported for security updates, and will be up until 18-Apr-2014: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?ln=en-gb&c2=1173

EDIT: Just saw your most recent reply. Ok. (nothing to add, but thanks for the info)

Greg.

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Originally Posted by sullivang
I see that XP is still supported for security updates, and will be up until 18-Apr-2014: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?ln=en-gb&c2=1173

Greg.

Very true, and I'm really sorry if I gave anyone the impression otherwise. But the writing is on the wall and I'm feeling the pressure.

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Originally Posted by dewster
I'm starting to really hate proprietary OSes and applications - too much churn on the user side and for what, profit? Don't get me wrong, I'm not an anti-advancement luddite.


I have a very different opinion here. I've been around computers my whole life (edit: well, most of my working life), and I remember the days of extremely expensive mini-computers and mainframes. I am continually AMAZED at how cheap everything has become now, and of course the performance is just mind boggling. I think the home computing & internet revolution has been absolutely fantastic, and we've been absolutely spoilt rotten.

One thing you have to take into account is the price savings when you buy a peripheral for a general purpose PC, as opposed to buying a standalone item that has all the software, keyboard, and screen inbuilt. For example, just imagine how much your FPGA programmers would have cost if they were like that. Look on the bright side as well.

Greg.

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