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#2023618 - 01/29/13 07:15 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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I tried to test Pianoteq, but there's enough randomness in the peak amplitude from note to note (even feeding it identical velocities for consecutive notes) to make it impossible for me to determine whether it's interpolating or not, using the simplistic method of inspecting the peak of the waveform. (I did increase the dynamic range to max, but it's not enough to bring out any trend)

I used a velocity curve that mapped velocity 0 to 63, and velocity 127 to 64.

Greg.


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#2023661 - 01/29/13 08:47 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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I rolled up my sleeves and averaged the peak amplitude for 10 strikes at each velocity, and VOILA - I can see that Pianoteq is indeed interpolating the velocity curve. ;^) There is a tiny 0.5dB difference between an input velocity of 1 and 127, when mapped to 63 and 64 respectively, with intermediate velocities producing averages within that 0.5dB range, in a consistent and expected way. (the velocity curve is a straight line between 0,63 and 127,64)

Please resume your normal VPC1 programming. ;^)

Greg.


Edited by sullivang (01/29/13 09:24 PM)

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#2023676 - 01/29/13 09:11 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: sullivang]
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Originally Posted By: sullivang
Please resume your normal VPC1 programming. ;^)


Thanks. wink
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#2023677 - 01/29/13 09:17 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Kawai James]
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James...
Latest status on the website? Will it go live tomorrow? And to confirm... is it kawaivpc.com?
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#2023680 - 01/29/13 09:26 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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HisKidd, the website is in final testing.

My colleagues here in Japan and overseas requested some minor alterations, however I hope these will be finalised today.

Yes, the current url is correct. wink

Thank you for your continued patience.

Cheers,
James
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#2023686 - 01/29/13 09:34 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: gvfarns]
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Originally Posted By: gvfarns
Originally Posted By: Qbert
That's a pitty. frown
It means that we will never see a VPC II with GF keyboard.

Right. It also probably means Kawai will not be producing a GF replacement for the MP10.

Would have liked to see a VPC or MP10 II with GF as well. The good news is that since a GF version probably not is in near sight, no need to worry whether it was premature of me to order the VPC :-)

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#2023775 - 01/30/13 01:26 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
Saw Muse last night.


Lucky guy!

They put on a pretty good show, don't they? wink

Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
Glad to see Matt Bellamy is still using a Kawai onstage.


Yes, he's a fantastic musician - all of the band members are.

Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
James, any idea if that is still the MP8 or does he have a VPC in there already.


No, I believe it's an MP8II inside (I posted a picture from one of the conversions in the 'GP shell' thread the other day). A VPC1 would be an ideal board for future GP conversions, however I believe Matt needs to have access to additional controls for changing patches. It might be possible to do that kind of thing remotely (off stage), if not just a separate MIDI control surface.

Cheers,
James
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#2024072 - 01/30/13 02:10 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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Phew, just read all of this monster thread.

So when are these going to start appearing in stores? (I'm in Vancouver BC)
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#2024107 - 01/30/13 03:19 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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First of all, Thanks Kawai James for answering my questions.

Looking at the video at the Synthology Booth and showing Ivory being played on the Kawai VPC1 controller, I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of speakers they were using for the sound. I could see the speakers, but couldn't make out what they were. Did anyone recognize them? The weakest link in my experience is the speakers that reproduce the sound. So I always use headphones even though I have 3 different sets of monitor speakers. I am sure that Synthology chose the best ones to represent their products.

If anyone knows what kind or model they were, I would appreciate it knowing.
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#2024140 - 01/30/13 04:07 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Kawai James]
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James...
Certainly not a deal breaker for me... but just for fun, wanted to comment on the Mac computer Jordan Rudess was using. Do you think he would have liked to have had the editing software to fine tune the VPC? I'm still dumbfounded as to why a first class keyboard/controller would not be optimized for Mac! Please keep us informed as to if and when this added extra will become available. My plan right now would be to pick up an inexpensive Windows laptop just for use with the VPC1.
If the amount of the response in our thread is any indication, this product is going to be a must have for many! Again, thanks for all the helpful information you've made available for all of us!
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#2024143 - 01/30/13 04:13 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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pianobear100, I will try to find out which speakers Synthogy use to demo Ivory II.

James
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#2024159 - 01/30/13 04:46 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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Considering that the software products from Pianoteq, Galaxy, etc ... have a velocity curve option already, my common sense meter tells me that the velocity curve thingy in the VPC controller will make very little (if any) detectable difference in what the average piano players experience when using the VPC.

This just gives us a sense that we are getting things "just right" ... but the actual audible effect will be negligible.

Extremely good players attempting to express exceptional dynamics will probably notice the difference but others may not really detect anything different in their playing experience.

Am I alone in this "feeling" ?



Edited by dmd (01/30/13 05:03 PM)
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#2024175 - 01/30/13 05:20 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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Don, common sense is all very well, however I would recommend trying the VPC1, (comparing the 'Normal' touch curve with one of the 'Approved' touch curves) before passing judgement.

Kind regards,
James
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#2024180 - 01/30/13 05:31 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Don, common sense is all very well, however I would recommend trying the VPC1, (comparing the 'Normal' touch curve with one of the 'Approved' touch curves) before passing judgement.

Kind regards,
James
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I understand. I have certainly not "passed judgement". Only expressing a sense of things based on life's experiences. Unfortunately, I probably will be unable to make a move to the VPC controller any time soon, so judgement will have to be passed by others but I will be receptive to that judgement.
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#2024255 - 01/30/13 08:05 PM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
Saw Muse last night.


Lucky guy!

They put on a pretty good show, don't they? wink

Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
Glad to see Matt Bellamy is still using a Kawai onstage.


Yes, he's a fantastic musician - all of the band members are.

Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
James, any idea if that is still the MP8 or does he have a VPC in there already.


No, I believe it's an MP8II inside (I posted a picture from one of the conversions in the 'GP shell' thread the other day). A VPC1 would be an ideal board for future GP conversions, however I believe Matt needs to have access to additional controls for changing patches. It might be possible to do that kind of thing remotely (off stage), if not just a separate MIDI control surface.

Cheers,
James
x


I have seen them 8 times since 2004 at the Wiltern and they never disappoint. As with most bands that experience great commercial success, they aren't as raw as they were back in 2004, but they have really evolved in many ways as well. The crowd was the most crazed I've seen for Muse in the US, but deservedly so. They mixed in a healthy amount of older tunes and even the piano heavy Sunburn.

Muse only became popular in the US in recent years. Unfortunately, more for their radio hits, but I know over in Europe and Japan they have greater knowledge of Muse and Matt's artistry. The other guys have really stepped up their musicianship over the years, although they always sounded like guys who played together forever.

Thanks for the info. Their music isn't as piano oriented anymore, but Matt still plays a few tunes on the Kawai setup. You could see the Kawai logo in huge letters on the monitors that made up the jaw dropping set.


Edited by Hideki Matsui (01/30/13 08:25 PM)
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#2024377 - 01/31/13 12:43 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: pianobear100]
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Originally Posted By: pianobear100
Looking at the video at the Synthology Booth and showing Ivory being played on the Kawai VPC1 controller, I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of speakers they were using for the sound. I could see the speakers, but couldn't make out what they were.

They were Adam Audio S3X-H. Sounded very well, for sure.

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#2024414 - 01/31/13 02:46 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Peter B]
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Originally Posted By: Peter B
They were Adam Audio S3X-H. Sounded very well, for sure.


That's correct. wink

James
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#2024426 - 01/31/13 03:28 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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The VPC website is now online at the following URL:

www.kawaivpc.com

(up-to-date Chrome/Firefox browser recommended)

We've tested everything thoroughly, so there shouldn't be too many bugs/typos, however if you spot any issues, I would be grateful if you send a private message.

Once again, my apologies for the delay!

Cheers,
James
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#2024441 - 01/31/13 04:09 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
The VPC website is now online at the following URL:

www.kawaivpc.com

(up-to-date Chrome/Firefox browser recommended)

We've tested everything thoroughly, so there shouldn't be too many bugs/typos, however if you spot any issues, I would be grateful if you send a private message.

Once again, my apologies for the delay!

Cheers,
James
x


James...
The website is beautiful. Wow! So much helpful info... graphics are grabbers; Q&A excellent; really user friendly. This is award-winning quality! Just curious... will this type of promo/website be for only the VPC1, or can we expect to see more for other DP's? Congrats, this is outstanding!
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#2024444 - 01/31/13 04:18 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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HisKidd, many thanks for your positive feedback!

We intend to add additional content (interviews with the VPC team/software developers/artists and tutorial videos etc.) in future, so please keep your eyes peeled on the facebook page and/or this forum for update announcements. wink

I'll also be updating the Q&A with answers to commonly asked questions.

Originally Posted By: HisKidd
Just curious... will this type of promo/website be for only the VPC1, or can we expect to see more for other DP's?


We certainly hope so.

Cheers,
James
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#2024449 - 01/31/13 04:49 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
The VPC website is now online at the following URL:

www.kawaivpc.com

...


Both the website and the piano look pretty good. As a minor suggestion, the images bellow "Product overview" on the main page could link directly to the appropriate section in the "Features" page.

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#2024453 - 01/31/13 05:33 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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Hookxs, thank you for your positive feedback and good suggestion.

Actually, earlier versions of the website did link directly to the accompanying 'Feature' text, however the jump and subsequent scroll wasn't very attractive (it felt like the website equivalent of being on a roller-coaster). Moreover, we wished for the visitor to view the information sequentially, rather than skipping through content. For these reasons we decided not to link to each section directly from the front page.

Kind regards,
James
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#2024455 - 01/31/13 05:47 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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Yes, that makes sense.

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#2024474 - 01/31/13 07:07 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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James, do the approved touch curves include individual key offsets? Can you explain in more detail the key offset feature? I am wondering if it is used to correct manufacturing irregularities of individual keys, or it is used to emulate more/less weighting to suit a particular software piano? In other words, is it a rectifying feature or enhancing feature? smile
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#2024501 - 01/31/13 08:52 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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"the VPC1 can breath new life into your existing setup."

Typo, but otherwise, a nice website :-)
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#2024542 - 01/31/13 09:59 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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This might have been covered in the thread already, but has there been any hints on pricing?

and edit: Lovely website, and exciting instrument!


Edited by oivavoi (01/31/13 10:00 AM)
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#2024545 - 01/31/13 10:04 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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Great website, James. Very informative. It answered my question about how the board is powered if you are not using USB...there's a 12-volt adapter.

It also sort of addressed my longstanding question about the purpose of the capstan screw, though I'm not sure who I would have to talk to in order to get the ones on my MP8 adjusted.

Overall super-informative website, "breath new life" notwithstanding.

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#2024560 - 01/31/13 10:31 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: R0B]
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Originally Posted By: R0B
"the VPC1 can breath new life into your existing setup."

Typo, but otherwise, a nice website :-)


Calling it a "Typo" is generous of you.

Alternatively, it is a spelling error. frown
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#2024568 - 01/31/13 10:41 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: davinwv]
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Nice site James!

Hmm, I don't see a lot of difference between the Ivory, Galaxy, and Alicia's Keys velocity curves. Though I suppose there could be more going on if the key offsets are different?

Kind of strange that the 3 pedal unit only has two plugs.
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#2024569 - 01/31/13 10:44 AM Re: Kawai VPC [Re: Kawai James]
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Great site James, thank you - no reason for any apologies.

I have downloaded and studied all relevant material and am eagerly looking forward to receiving the VPC1 as ordered.

And, of course, still waiting for the Mac version of the Editor :-)

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