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Oh James, you're letting me curious about everything. LOL But, you're right, you're letting us have a nice surprise. Well, at least, I'm waiting for a really nice surprise.
"But its got a crap keyboard action Dave ... no amount of great sounds help that." Dr. Popper
Majoring in Piano at University of São Paulo - Ribeirão Preto Music Education Major at Music Department of FFCLRP - University of São Paulo P-515, P140 and DGX-670 Previously: Rönisch Upright, MOX8.
I have zoomed in on the Ivory II label and I am able to somehow recognize the word "Approved" in front of the "VPC 1", however there are some words beneath which are more difficult to see. Maybe Kawai something... KawaiGrand?
Pedro, I must confess that I am a big football fan!
My home town is Norwich, and I still follow my 'local' team (nicknamed 'The Canaries', who play in yellow and green incidentally...) every Saturday.
However, I also am rather partial to Brazilian music; the percussive rhythms, the smooth sound of the sung Brazilian Portuguese, and of course the energy of Sammba. I love late 60s/early 70s funk&soul music, and stumbled upon the band 'Funk Como Le Gusta' a few years ago. Arguably a little to 'commercial' in places...especially for my fussy tastes, but they have a great tight sound that fuses different styles together. I haven't listened to their music for a little while, so will have to load some of their tunes onto my iPod.
Of course, if you have any other Brazilian musical recommendations (funk, soul, or otherwise...), please do let me know!
Cheers, James x
WAY OFF TOPIC, SORRY So you are english and from Norwich!! Funny, my hometown team is fighting with yours about some spanish forward (Aspas) if I'm not wrong.
About brazilian music, that I love: browse Trattore Records, a company which holds many independent producers together. This is the most representative of current brazillian music of any genre. And looking for some soul/funk blended with bossa, samba or whatever root music, you'll find a lot there. I've made a good spotify list if you'd like. Names: Alexandre Grooves, The Sapotones, Bojo, Lenine, Osmar Milito, Maniva, Tania Maria... Brazil is a world in itself. But that's just for music. Football is ours
Learning piano from scratch since September, 2012. Kawai ES7.Kawai K-200
mabraman, yep I'm from Norwich - pride of Anglia. Your hometown club...Reading? So you're not a Spaniard then? I just looked up Aspas - plays for Celta Vigo, right? Might be worth a punt.
Thank you for the music recommendations too - wow lots more names to check out, however right now I'm supposed to be planning a Breakestra-style funk/soul mash-up ahead of a band practise tomorrow morning.
Uuups, then it's Reading and not Norwich who wants Aspas. Sorry. And yes, I'm a spaniard (hard to be proud of, these times). End of my off-topic here. By the way, that VPC looks terrific! I want one of those when I'm grown
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Learning piano from scratch since September, 2012. Kawai ES7.Kawai K-200
Brazil is a world in itself. But that's just for music. Football is ours
OFF TOPIC...
I disagree... there's a lot of good things on football... really nice ones. And our food is really really nice. Like Japanese too, but prefer Brazilian. Did you came here? And in music, you have a point... good musicians too. Do you listen to Maria Rita, Elis Regina, Torquato Neto & Zimbo Trio, Guilherme Arantes, Ivan Lins? They're really good too. I really love love love Ivan Lins's music...
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"But its got a crap keyboard action Dave ... no amount of great sounds help that." Dr. Popper
Majoring in Piano at University of São Paulo - Ribeirão Preto Music Education Major at Music Department of FFCLRP - University of São Paulo P-515, P140 and DGX-670 Previously: Rönisch Upright, MOX8.
Despite the fact that I feel good how home computing has evolved, my eyebrows are definitely in the "raised" position regarding DPs, and I think what Dewster has been saying all along has a lot of substance.
I also am not saying that everything is perfect in home computing either - Microsoft & Apple execs could probably price stuff lower and drive around in Boxters instead of 911's no doubt. ;^) However, I do think things are pretty fantastic nevertheless.
When will they put Ivory class sounds inside the DP?
This may be the "proving ground." Having seen where Korg (and maybe Yamaha - we'll know this week) is going, Kawai may be testing out new high-end software, prior to building it into future DPs. It presumably takes a lot of effort to produce a stable and well-integrated multi-gigabyte DP, and possibly, at this stage, this was the only way to produce something competitive. It could well be a question of "watch this space."
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High-end controller (in terms of keybed) and the sample set in all its glory ported over to a third party licensed software bundle (Ivory in this case, others did it with Kontakt player). Nice job.
Think this will be where it's going anyway in the future, build in stuff will eventually stay too far behind, be too slow to continuously update and to expensive to develop. I think Korg Kronos and such may even be the last efforts in that all-in-one direction and after perhaps a few more updated models be phased out in favor of the 'separate hardware / software ' approach . If cleverly done of course and there is still a lot of progress to be made in terms of user experience, ease of use and setup, reliability etc. If Kawai brings out a hard- software package as complete solution, they jump ahead and skip the temporary approach some others have chosen with rewritable flash rom.
Think this will be where it's going anyway in the future, build in stuff will eventually stay too far behind, be too slow to continuously update and to expensive to develop.
Computing costs are way down these days, particularly in the embedded spaced, so that really isn't much of an issue anymore.
There's no practical reason I can think of that keeps Kawai and Ivory from getting together and making a fabulous DP. Plenty of boneheaded management reasons I can think of though.
Think this will be where it's going anyway in the future, build in stuff will eventually stay too far behind, be too slow to continuously update and to expensive to develop.
Computing costs are way down these days, particularly in the embedded spaced, so that really isn't much of an issue anymore.
There's no practical reason I can think of that keeps Kawai and Ivory from getting together and making a fabulous DP. Plenty of boneheaded management reasons I can think of though.
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K.
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I've been waiting for something like this for a long time, having tried all the usual suspects that claim to have a "piano like" action! I tried an MP10 last year and was blown away by it. I was about to order one when I read Kawai James hint in another thread about controllers that we should "wait". So I have been ever since... roll on NAMM I say!
I tried an MP10 last year and was blown away by it. I was about to order one when I read Kawai James hint in another thread about controllers that we should "wait". So I have been ever since... roll on NAMM I say!
So, how soon before we can get the announcements? Do they tend to do press releases a day before NAMM opens or right on the first morning of the conference? Or do they trickle it throughout the event?
Temperament, I'm glad you're enjoying the teasers. ;p
But it makes a refreshing change compared to Kawai's usual silence, wouldn't you say?
Acca, the official announcement is planned for NAMM. I'm not entirely sure exactly what time/date this will happen, but I hope to have the website up and running in time for the show opening. Press releases have already been sent out to various different news outlets, although with so many new products being released from a number of companies, there's no guarantee that the information will be selected for coverage.
In the meantime, I set up a Facebook page at www.facebook.com/kawaivpc , and intend to post NAMM-related updates as and when they happen.
Regardless what the precise outcome will be in terms of
1) embedded software (build-in mini PC), 2) included software, 3) included sample sets (Kawai EX?) 4) or merely extended integrated support for the popular software Piano's around
I applaud the direction Kawai is taking with this approach. It is long due and it seems one company finally decided to listen (instead of ignore) the many pleads around for a more modern implementation of the idea of a digital piano. Fixed build-in (tiny) rompler configurations should really become a blast from the past and a more open highly flexible software based approach is sooo much more 2013, be it embedded or in terms of carefully designed software packages and/or third party support. Piano companies can still sell many units of the core of its products where they are the best; good hardware (keys, cabinet, speaker/soundboard system).
Anyway, I'm repeating myself. Just am happy something interesting comes up...
Yes, Kawai is clearly listening to customers. People have been begging here for a good MIDI controller for years and no one has provided it. Hopefully this will be the answer.
Hey I registered just to ask a question in this thread
I have a rather silly concern regarding controllers of any kind. The wires.
So my question would be if the controller is "standard" in that regard, i.e it's a controller that is interfaced via midi to a PC running some sort of DAW software or if it is a little bit more clever.
The reason is that I really don't like the mess of wires the traditional setup causes.
You have midi from the controller to the PC. You have two power bricks or power leads, you have to route the sound from the PC back to where the controller is so you need a sound interface or preamp etc.
This usually discourages me from using a controller + module or controller + DAW on PC setup because I'd rather use it all in one board than clutter my living space with all of that wiring.
