Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
87 registered (AZNpiano, achi, AZ_Astro, AndrewJCW, Anticlock, 25 invisible), 1048 Guests and 10 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Topic Options
#2024511 - 01/31/13 09:05 AM Fingering question
johnsmith1261 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 3
Hi!

What is the recommended fingering on the left hand for the sequence D E F G Ab?

With 1 being thumb and 5 being pinky, fingering it with 5 4 3 2 1 feels awkward, because I would have to play a black key with my thumb.

So I opted for 5 4 3 2 3... But this doesn't seem to be right, I guess the middle finger shouldn't cross the index finger.

So how should I go about it?

Thanks,
j

Top
(ad) Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2024513 - 01/31/13 09:08 AM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
zrtf90 Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 2800
Loc: Ireland (ex England)
Without knowing what comes before or after, 4-3-2-1-2.
_________________________
Richard

Top
#2024526 - 01/31/13 09:41 AM Re: Fingering question [Re: zrtf90]
johnsmith1261 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 3
Thank you for the quick answer!

I'm actually practicing No.10. from Bartok Mikrokosmos.

It uses only five keys for both the left and the right hand: D E F G Ab

It's suggested above the staff that one should start this piece with the pinky on D (left hand). Playing it the way you suggested seems much better though.

But I wonder what happens when one sightreads it the first time and follows the suggestion of starting with the pinky on D?

When the Ab comes in (and we are unprepared, because it's the first time we sightread this piece), which finger should one use?

j

Top
#2024559 - 01/31/13 10:31 AM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
zrtf90 Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 2800
Loc: Ireland (ex England)
It may be training you to look ahead and think on the spot, say, 5-4-3-1-2, which I commonly use in Bach. Or might it be encouraging you to get used that awkward fingering so that it doesn't feel so awkward?
_________________________
Richard

Top
#2024640 - 01/31/13 01:03 PM Re: Fingering question [Re: zrtf90]
johnsmith1261 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 3
Hmm maybe... some description could have been provided for some of these exercises.

Thank you!

Top
#2024800 - 01/31/13 05:39 PM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
Derulux Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/06/05
Posts: 5446
Loc: Philadelphia
If it doesn't use any other notes, there are many:

54321
54312
43212
43213

32121
32132
21212
21213
21432
12132

I could keep going.. but the point is, you have to use what's comfortable, and what gets you from the previous notes, and to the next notes, the easiest.

That said, I bolded the ones I would try first. Usually, I would try to keep my thumb off the Ab, but if there's nothing after it, and the five notes repeat, just move your hand inside the black key area and have at it. smile
_________________________
Every day we are afforded a new chance. The problem with life is not that you run out of chances. In the end, what you run out of are days.

Top
#2024835 - 01/31/13 06:28 PM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
Charles Cohen Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/26/12
Posts: 2071
Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
[quote=johnsmith1261
I'm actually practicing No.10. from Bartok Mikrokosmos.

It uses only five keys for both the left and the right hand: D E F G Ab

It's suggested above the staff that one should start this piece with the pinky on D (left hand). Playing it the way you suggested seems much better though.

But I wonder what happens when one sightreads it the first time and follows the suggestion of starting with the pinky on D?

When the Ab comes in (and we are unprepared, because it's the first time we sightread this piece), which finger should one use?

j [/quote]

FWIW --

This sounds like Bartok _designed it_ to put your thumb on the A-flat !

I don't have the score, but if it just uses 5 notes in each hand, and doesn't require the hand to _move_ to a different position for other notes (which is why we do "thumb-under" fingering):

. . . Put the thumb on the A-flat, and get used to it.

. Charles
_________________________
. Charles
---------------------------
PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / ZXA1 speaker

Top

Moderator:  BB Player, casinitaly 
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
Back to School Music SALE!
Save 10% in our online store
.
Just enter SAVE10 in the coupon box during checkout. *
And YES, you can save 10% AND still get free shipping on Jansen Artist benches!
PianoSupplies.com is Piano World's Online Store
Please visit our store today.
* Sale does not apply to advertising, how old requests, or any non-tangible items. Can not be combined with any other promotions. Ends August 31, 2015
(ad) Teaching Children Music
Teaching Music to Children
(ad) Yamaha Stage Pianos
Yamaha CP4 & CP40 Stage Pianos
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
Wessell Nickel & Gross
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Piano places in Boston
by phantomFive
08/30/15 01:52 AM
Ivory II as an inboard sound on a portable DP
by AZ_Astro
08/29/15 11:43 PM
Which edition for Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier?
by colin_pianist18
08/29/15 09:18 PM
How old were you when you started tuning?
by Justice Post
08/29/15 06:27 PM
Is it OK to dance on your piano lid?
by michaelha
08/29/15 05:37 PM
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Forum Stats
80,564 Registered Members
44 Forums
166,516 Topics
2,440,265 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission