Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyers Guide
Who's Online
66 registered (augustm, beet31425, AprilE, 15 invisible), 1451 Guests and 10 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#2024511 - 01/31/13 09:05 AM Fingering question
johnsmith1261 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 3
Hi!

What is the recommended fingering on the left hand for the sequence D E F G Ab?

With 1 being thumb and 5 being pinky, fingering it with 5 4 3 2 1 feels awkward, because I would have to play a black key with my thumb.

So I opted for 5 4 3 2 3... But this doesn't seem to be right, I guess the middle finger shouldn't cross the index finger.

So how should I go about it?

Thanks,
j

Top
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2024513 - 01/31/13 09:08 AM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
zrtf90 Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 3088
Loc: Ireland (ex England)
Without knowing what comes before or after, 4-3-2-1-2.
_________________________
Richard

Top
#2024526 - 01/31/13 09:41 AM Re: Fingering question [Re: zrtf90]
johnsmith1261 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 3
Thank you for the quick answer!

I'm actually practicing No.10. from Bartok Mikrokosmos.

It uses only five keys for both the left and the right hand: D E F G Ab

It's suggested above the staff that one should start this piece with the pinky on D (left hand). Playing it the way you suggested seems much better though.

But I wonder what happens when one sightreads it the first time and follows the suggestion of starting with the pinky on D?

When the Ab comes in (and we are unprepared, because it's the first time we sightread this piece), which finger should one use?

j

Top
#2024559 - 01/31/13 10:31 AM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
zrtf90 Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 3088
Loc: Ireland (ex England)
It may be training you to look ahead and think on the spot, say, 5-4-3-1-2, which I commonly use in Bach. Or might it be encouraging you to get used that awkward fingering so that it doesn't feel so awkward?
_________________________
Richard

Top
#2024640 - 01/31/13 01:03 PM Re: Fingering question [Re: zrtf90]
johnsmith1261 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 3
Hmm maybe... some description could have been provided for some of these exercises.

Thank you!

Top
#2024800 - 01/31/13 05:39 PM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
Derulux Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/06/05
Posts: 5446
Loc: Philadelphia
If it doesn't use any other notes, there are many:

54321
54312
43212
43213

32121
32132
21212
21213
21432
12132

I could keep going.. but the point is, you have to use what's comfortable, and what gets you from the previous notes, and to the next notes, the easiest.

That said, I bolded the ones I would try first. Usually, I would try to keep my thumb off the Ab, but if there's nothing after it, and the five notes repeat, just move your hand inside the black key area and have at it. smile
_________________________
Every day we are afforded a new chance. The problem with life is not that you run out of chances. In the end, what you run out of are days.

Top
#2024835 - 01/31/13 06:28 PM Re: Fingering question [Re: johnsmith1261]
Charles Cohen Online   content
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/26/12
Posts: 3057
Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
[quote=johnsmith1261
I'm actually practicing No.10. from Bartok Mikrokosmos.

It uses only five keys for both the left and the right hand: D E F G Ab

It's suggested above the staff that one should start this piece with the pinky on D (left hand). Playing it the way you suggested seems much better though.

But I wonder what happens when one sightreads it the first time and follows the suggestion of starting with the pinky on D?

When the Ab comes in (and we are unprepared, because it's the first time we sightread this piece), which finger should one use?

j [/quote]

FWIW --

This sounds like Bartok _designed it_ to put your thumb on the A-flat !

I don't have the score, but if it just uses 5 notes in each hand, and doesn't require the hand to _move_ to a different position for other notes (which is why we do "thumb-under" fingering):

. . . Put the thumb on the A-flat, and get used to it.

. Charles
_________________________
. Charles
---------------------------
PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / Korg Wavedrum / EV ZXA1 speaker

Top

Moderator:  BB Player, casinitaly 
What's Hot!!
Piano Summit 2017 - Join Us!
along with Chick Corea, Jonathan Cain,Set Rudetsky, Ray Chew, Onree Gill ...
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Ad
Let Your Piano Sing
Let Your Piano Sing
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Getting started on jazz piano (and a bit of self intro)
by lakers4sho
Yesterday at 10:14 PM
Black Coat for classical piano performances
by harry_kinomoto
Yesterday at 09:04 PM
I need help deciding on 20-30k budget for new grand piano
by Pianonote616
Yesterday at 07:48 PM
'Hearing' the notes on the sheet
by LarryShone
Yesterday at 07:16 PM
help needed keys
by Ron1950
Yesterday at 06:36 PM
Forum Stats
85,081 Registered Members
44 Forums
175,356 Topics
2,558,389 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission