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#2028820 - 02/07/13 03:26 PM About Yamaha P105B
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Anyone know if this e-piano have the double action effect like mp10 kawai?
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#2028832 - 02/07/13 03:51 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: foster12]
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What do you mean by double action effect? The key action is nowhere near (as good as) the MP10 action.

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#2028844 - 02/07/13 04:14 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: foster12]
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I mean the typical click, that you feel when push slowly the key.

I have a Yamaha P60 and it has't this feature.
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#2028847 - 02/07/13 04:22 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: foster12]
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Definately not. P-105 uses GHS, a light action and Yahama's cheapest. Haven't played a Kawai in a long time, but I doubt it feels anything like it. In fact the P-105 is nothing like a MP10.

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#2028851 - 02/07/13 04:26 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: foster12]
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Thank you for the answer.

I don't understand why Yamaha continue to insert the escapement only in best e-pianos.
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#2028874 - 02/07/13 05:03 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: foster12]
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It sounds like you are talking about what we sometimes call 'escapement simulation,' which is a little tiny bit of resistance at the point where escapement would happen in an acoustic.

I don't think Yamaha has escapement simulation in any of their pianos, including the high-end ones. I was only top Roland pianos for a long time. Now Kawai has it in their top pianos. AFAIK Yamaha has never used it. It's not really that nice of a think, in my opinion. I wouldn't pay any extra for it, personally.

They have triple sensor actions in the nicer pianos, if that's what you are thinking of. But that's not something you can feel.


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#2028883 - 02/07/13 05:17 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: foster12]
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Originally Posted By: foster12
I don't understand why Yamaha continue to insert the escapement only in best e-pianos.

Cost. The more sophisticated actions are part of the reason to buy a better model.

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#2028884 - 02/07/13 05:18 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: gvfarns]
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Originally Posted By: gvfarns
Now Kawai has it in their top pianos. AFAIK Yamaha has never used it. It's not really that nice of a think, in my opinion. I wouldn't pay any extra for it, personally.


Escapement/let-off was introduced in Kawai's previous generation actions, but reserved for the higher specification models.

However, now it is a standard feature of all the current generation actions (GF, RM3 Grand II, and RHII).

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#2029002 - 02/07/13 09:07 PM Re: About Yamaha P105B [Re: foster12]
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Most has already been said. On the plus side for the GHS action is that it is still very durable and responsive despite its older, less sophisticated design. I wish it were firmer. I like how its basic features are grouped. I like several of its sounds. The speakers are surprisingly good for their size. I like that there is audio out on the back and headphone outs on the front. In its price class, its a good competitor for Casio PX-150.

Let off or "escapement" (misnomer) is also on all current Roland DP's. It's extremely mild on Ivory Feel-G and easily noticeable on all current PHA-III variations (I think there are only 2).
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