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#2029500 - 02/08/13 08:28 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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Please don't quote inappropriate posts - it only encourages the trolls and takes twice as long to delete.
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#2029507 - 02/08/13 08:42 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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This thread needs to be closed... moderators?
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#2029515 - 02/08/13 08:53 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: carey
Originally Posted By: Old Man
Originally Posted By: carey
Originally Posted By: FSO
No no, Carey, let RonaldSteinway explain, I assume, himself; which of those qualities do heterosexuals miss out on? And females...? Um...I'm not judging your assertions but...it strikes me that you're insinuating that gay men have the highest chance of being perfect human beings...you're making some pretty bold claims here laugh

ha I didn't even want to acknowledge the "female" comment. Would any of our female PW members like to chime in here???? grin

I think one of them just did. She even addressed you by name. grin

You got me on that one !! smile

Actually, I had an unfair advantage. I had used the wrong pronoun on another thread, and then apologized. Her response was "Pfft, it happens", which endeared her to me forever. laugh

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#2029516 - 02/08/13 08:55 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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There's only been one moderator report so far, and I don't see a compelling reason to close it just yet. It's a dangerous topic, and my guess is the thread will go sour soon enough, but there are a few interesting ideas here and there, so I'll wait it out a bit longer.
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#2029521 - 02/08/13 08:59 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: ju5t1n-h]
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Originally Posted By: ju5t1n-h
This thread needs to be closed... moderators?
Why?

It will close of its own accord, like any other thread. So far, I think it's been interesting and 99% civil.

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#2029532 - 02/08/13 09:15 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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Originally Posted By: Kreisler
There's only been one moderator report so far...

Amazing, those wimps who whine to a moderator at something perceived as offensive. Why not just stay off the thread? And during my commute home from work I seem to have missed some excitement!

And there have been some interesting ideas here...
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#2029534 - 02/08/13 09:26 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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Words of your own have had similar enough effect on me, Old Man <3 Um...I rather like this thread; a lot of liberally minded enough people posting comments innocuously enough whilst worrying that their own wording or the wording of others might incite some form of homophobic revolt. I mean, um, this thread's hardly about to get out of hand; even the Horowitz quote became deconstructed so as to ensure all that no offence is being taken or received, transmitted or otherwise left lying around... laugh *and*, whilst the conservatively liberal may disagree, the thread began with a valid topic to which all the subsequent posts have pertained some degree of relevance; to close it at this juncture would be, in a way, to say that this is something that *shouldn't* be talked about...anyone who can't see the adverse long term effects of such needs binoculars...soo...um, thank you, Kreisler, for not blowing up the ship before it has a chance to sprig leaks and be abandoned.
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#2029537 - 02/08/13 09:36 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
There's only been one moderator report so far...

Amazing, those wimps who whine to a moderator at something perceived as offensive.
The moderator agreed that the post was offensive. He deleted it and called it inappropriate.

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#2029539 - 02/08/13 09:37 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: FSO]
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Originally Posted By: FSO
... whilst the conservatively liberal may disagree...

Not quite sure what that means... but considering your location, I should imagine you as quite socially liberal. wink
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#2029542 - 02/08/13 09:40 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
The moderator agreed that the post was offensive. He deleted it and called it inappropriate.

Well of course I never saw it... but still curious.
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#2029544 - 02/08/13 09:42 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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I find it fascinating how easily some people take offense -- just because somebody said the word "gay" doesn't automatically make them homophobic or anti-gay. So far as I can tell, nothing in the OP is derogatory, insulting, or degrading. I think rather than getting all up in arms about "it shouldn't matter", we should all realize that no, it doesn't matter...but that doesn't mean it's not still an interesting correlation to study.

My own theory is that while male pianists are not more likely to be gay, gay men are more likely to be pianists. A lot of it has to do with the emotional sensitivity that many "alpha" type straight guys repress, or simply don't possess in the first place, and the fact that being a good performer requires a certain amount of outward flamboyancy. There are flamboyant straight men, and there are introverted gay men, I'm not trying to make any blanket statements here, but the point is that it's a fair point. It doesn't really matter, but it's still an interesting topic for idle discussion -- so long as people can realize the difference between discussing sexuality and being homophobic.

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#2029548 - 02/08/13 09:52 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: fledgehog]
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Originally Posted By: fledgehog
I think rather than getting all up in arms about "it shouldn't matter", we should all realize that no, it doesn't matter...but that doesn't mean it's not still an interesting correlation to study.

Perfectly defining for me what I mean by "conservatively liberal"; Um...it's...well, homing in on notions, questions or even words that merely border non-"politically correct" in an attempt to enforce a free and loving environment rather than allowing one to grow naturally...
Edit: and yes...um...you could arguably call me socially liberal but don't let on; it's an awfully weak position to start off at laugh


Edited by FSO (02/08/13 09:54 PM)
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#2029549 - 02/08/13 10:00 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
There's only been one moderator report so far...

Amazing, those wimps who whine to a moderator at something perceived as offensive. Why not just stay off the thread? And during my commute home from work I seem to have missed some excitement!

Not really. smile
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#2029562 - 02/08/13 10:41 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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Few thoughts:

1 -
Originally Posted By: fledgehog
My own theory is that while male pianists are not more likely to be gay, gay men are more likely to be pianists.
Interesting - kinda like "gymnastics doesn't make people short, short people make good gymnasts." But I don't think that necessarily applies here. Do fat people make better opera singers? I don't know - the yummy Jonas Kaufmann does pretty well for himself.

2 -
This topic comes up from time to time, and I always find it humorous how some enter conniption territory over such an innocent curiosity. "IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!1111" So Argerich likes (or liked...) her coffee and cigarettes, some pianists like french vanilla ice cream, and you know what? I would be interested to know if it turns out many "great" pianists like peanut butter on their bagels as much as I do? Why does it matter? I'm curious - stop getting so angry about it.

3 -
I also find it interesting that so many have chimed in - though no one has identified as gay. I am gay - and a very out-of-practice pianist smile I'm curious is all - NO IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!111111

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As a gay man, I think there's credence to the suggested - it's simply easier to "be" gay in the arts. I'm out - but trust me that working in construction, it's not as comfortable to talk freely of my partner and love life. Things have improved, but it's still awkward for some. We'll get there...

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#2029567 - 02/08/13 10:50 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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You can't compare being fat to being gay (no offence). You can lose weight more easily than to change your own instincts.

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#2029569 - 02/08/13 11:03 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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FSO, you quoted the wrong post. laugh
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#2029572 - 02/08/13 11:13 PM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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I don't plagiarise the future, it's not my style. GeorgeB...well, firstly you *can't* change instincts consciously, that's what makes them instincts, and secondly...um...don't you think fat people have an instinct for cake? laugh
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#2029628 - 02/09/13 02:15 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: RonaldSteinway]
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Originally Posted By: RonaldSteinway
This is my thought why many good pianists are gay.

In order to play piano well, there are many qualities needed:

1. Sensitivity.
2. Physical agility and endurance (fingers movement, endurance to practice for a long time).
3. Strong thinking ability (like to figure out complex stuff).
4. Persistence and focus in reaching the goal
5. Meticulous and detail oriented .

Gay men have more chance to possess those required qualities, that is why many of them are more equipped to be good pianists. Females or Hetero men usually lack of one or more of the above components.


I'm confused. If I look at your list, then I would say that women would have an advantage over men for the majority of the items on your list based on some of the inherent observed biological and evolutionary psychological differences between the sexes (which are considered just as taboo or even more so to discuss in some circles). Yet, we all know that over the past couple hundred of years there have been many more male master pianists with long and spectacular careers than female ones... Something else is clearly going on here. And I think we all know exactly what, too.

We are all products of our social environment.

Gay men can hide the fact that they are homosexual (or at least depend on those who enforce an oppressive and creepy "Don't Ask, Don't Tell!" mask of silence)

However, outside of the odd Isaac Bashevis Singer short story, women can't hide the fact that they are women.

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#2029635 - 02/09/13 02:42 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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Knowing someone's sexual orientation is about as relevant as knowing how thoroughly they wipe after a bowel movement.

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#2029638 - 02/09/13 03:01 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: Fugue14]
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Originally Posted By: Fugue14
Knowing someone's sexual orientation is about as relevant as knowing how thoroughly they wipe after a bowel movement.


Both are important when looking for a mate I guess smile

For me this subject is interesting because I am a sociologist, not on personal level. But if I look at my personal experience: I have lots of friends and acquintances who are openly gay and a few who are still in the closet. They come from all areas of professional life. Only a couple are involved with arts. I also know some very good musicians and they are not gay. So I wonder how piano would be in any way special in this regard...

OH, and I now understand why I will never be a good piano player...it's my gender! grin


Edited by outo (02/09/13 03:04 AM)

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#2029648 - 02/09/13 04:08 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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Bottomline is , no one can spot a woman or a man playing a certain piece. I don't believe for a second anyone would undergo a 100 sample test and get consistent results guessing whether its a woman or a mn playing. Let alone a homosexual, gay or lesbian. Same chance of guessing that you would have if you had to guess whether the person playing is bald , blonde or has a big nose. I think this discussion is a bit like some of 20th century "classical" music. It s legit as it explores many paths just for the sake of finding out where they ll take us, and whether tehy will take us anywhere. . But after some discussion, you realize, when you arrive at the end of those paths, there s nothing to see there.

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#2029652 - 02/09/13 04:22 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: izaldu]
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Originally Posted By: izaldu
Bottomline is , no one can spot a woman or a man playing a certain piece. I don't believe for a second anyone would undergo a 100 sample test and get consistent results guessing whether its a woman or a mn playing.


This misses the point, I believe.

The question is not: "Can you hear the difference between all men and all women playing the piano while listening blindly?"

The question is: "Why have there been so few women master pianists (or women composers for that matter) with life long careers?"

This question is even more urgent when one realizes that in the course of the history of the piano many more women than men have been introduced to and trained on the instrument while a substantial portion of the classical sonata literature was even written with these women in mind.

The answer of course is that, in general, social norms required successful women pianists and composers to stop (or at least hide) their professional-level activities at such time as their father or husband, themselves blindly obeying social conventions, instructed them to do so.

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#2029657 - 02/09/13 04:41 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
There's only been one moderator report so far...

Amazing, those wimps who whine to a moderator at something perceived as offensive. Why not just stay off the thread? And during my commute home from work I seem to have missed some excitement!

And there have been some interesting ideas here...


Exactly right, Offnote's post was not offensive at all. It was very funny comment
Actually. Many here are very prudish or/and from the past as I see it. If you cannot stand
Open comments from everybody do not allow off topic threads at all and close this thread.

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#2029668 - 02/09/13 06:03 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: zapper]
wr Offline
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Originally Posted By: zapper
Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
There's only been one moderator report so far...

Amazing, those wimps who whine to a moderator at something perceived as offensive. Why not just stay off the thread? And during my commute home from work I seem to have missed some excitement!

And there have been some interesting ideas here...


Exactly right, Offnote's post was not offensive at all. It was very funny comment
Actually. Many here are very prudish or/and from the past as I see it. If you cannot stand
Open comments from everybody do not allow off topic threads at all and close this thread.


I don't remember the whole thing, but it struck me as inappropriate for this forum. Besides the crudeness of the double entendre (which IMO wasn't really all that funny or clever), the tone could have been read as being a bit malicious - it wasn't all that clear that the poster approved of the subject matter.

At any rate, this isn't the place for dirty jokes. It just isn't (and that has nothing to do with personal prudishness, as anybody who knows me in real life would tell you).

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#2029671 - 02/09/13 06:09 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: Fugue14]
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Originally Posted By: Fugue14
Knowing someone's sexual orientation is about as relevant as knowing how thoroughly they wipe after a bowel movement.


That's extremely important to know. Especially if you're gay.

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#2029672 - 02/09/13 06:16 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: Ridicolosamente]
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Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
Few thoughts:

3 -
I also find it interesting that so many have chimed in - though no one has identified as gay. I am gay - and a very out-of-practice pianist smile I'm curious is all - NO IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!11111

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#2029674 - 02/09/13 06:17 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: GeorgeB]
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I thought I implied pretty strongly that I'm of that persuasion lol

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#2029676 - 02/09/13 06:28 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: fledgehog]
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Originally Posted By: fledgehog


My own theory is that while male pianists are not more likely to be gay, gay men are more likely to be pianists. A lot of it has to do with the emotional sensitivity that many "alpha" type straight guys repress, or simply don't possess in the first place, and the fact that being a good performer requires a certain amount of outward flamboyancy. There are flamboyant straight men, and there are introverted gay men, I'm not trying to make any blanket statements here, but the point is that it's a fair point. It doesn't really matter, but it's still an interesting topic for idle discussion -- so long as people can realize the difference between discussing sexuality and being homophobic.


Sorry but this is just plain wrong. A man's musical sensitivity has nothing to do with being gay. It has to do with being a good musician. Period.

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#2029677 - 02/09/13 06:32 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: wr]
zapper Offline
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Originally Posted By: wr
Originally Posted By: zapper
Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
There's only been one moderator report so far...

Amazing, those wimps who whine to a moderator at something perceived as offensive. Why not just stay off the thread? And during my commute home from work I seem to have missed some excitement!

And there have been some interesting ideas here...


Exactly right, Offnote's post was not offensive at all. It was very funny comment
Actually. Many here are very prudish or/and from the past as I see it. If you cannot stand
Open comments from everybody do not allow off topic threads at all and close this thread.


At any rate, this isn't the place for dirty jokes. It just isn't (and that has nothing to do with personal prudishness, as anybody who knows me in real life would tell you).



Gush, explain to us how it was a dirty joke...and yes you are prudish.

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#2029680 - 02/09/13 06:36 AM Re: The piano and homosexuality [Re: zapper]
wr Offline
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Originally Posted By: zapper
Originally Posted By: wr
Originally Posted By: zapper
Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Kreisler
There's only been one moderator report so far...

Amazing, those wimps who whine to a moderator at something perceived as offensive. Why not just stay off the thread? And during my commute home from work I seem to have missed some excitement!

And there have been some interesting ideas here...


Exactly right, Offnote's post was not offensive at all. It was very funny comment
Actually. Many here are very prudish or/and from the past as I see it. If you cannot stand
Open comments from everybody do not allow off topic threads at all and close this thread.


At any rate, this isn't the place for dirty jokes. It just isn't (and that has nothing to do with personal prudishness, as anybody who knows me in real life would tell you).



Gush, explain to us how it was a dirty joke...and yes you are prudish.


Nope, ain't gonna bite.

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