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#2029103 - 02/08/13 01:37 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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#2029106 - 02/08/13 02:03 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: TunerJeff]
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Originally Posted By: TunerJeff
...The triple-plain wire unisons extend much further down the scale. That's why concert grands can get up near 60-70,000 lbs. of tension. But the wire is NOT thicker or heavier for any given note. The opposite is true, sir. In fact, concert grands generally use a lighter wire than an upright or spinet for any given note; because they can use the LENGTH of the piano instead of the WEIGHT of a shorter thicker string.


Well, not really. Maybe comparing a concert grand to a spinet is a bit of a stretch. If you compare the notes within the Steinway instrument family, you will find that large instruments indeed have larger string gauges in the plain wire sections. Even compared to their uprights, the string gauges of the larger grands are on the heavy side.

note 23 (G)
Model:.........gauge (German wire gauges)
B...............19
C............... 20
D ............... 21


note 35 (G)
Model: .......... gauge
S ............... 17
M ............... 17.5
O ............... 17
A ............... 18
B ............... 18
C ............... 19
D ............... 19

Higher up the differences diminish, but the C and D scale still have larger gauges, right up through note 88.

source: Max Mathias: "Steinway Service Manual"
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#2029110 - 02/08/13 02:24 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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I have published stringing scales for Kawai and Baldwin grands, and they are similar to Steinway in that regard. Longer pianos may have one or two notes where they are thinner gauge than smaller pianos, but the trend is that longer pianos have the same or larger gauge wire.
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#2029131 - 02/08/13 03:24 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Thanks Jurgen for bringing the notify button to my attention.

I am away at the moment and i am using my phone to check in and post, and the whole process is time consuming and a bit more costly as it uses up my air time. So i am battling to stay in touch and tune with the thread.

So thanks to all who have made good and helpful contributions.

Thank you,
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#2029168 - 02/08/13 06:04 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Mark, is this tuning for a specific performance or is it a maintenance tuning?

If it is a specific performance, see if you can get to hear it or at least the rehearsal.

That will teach you a lot.
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#2029193 - 02/08/13 07:55 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Supply]
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Well, not really. Maybe comparing a concert grand to a spinet is a bit of a stretch.-Jurgen

Dear Jurgen,

Apologies! I should have said; "Any given bass note". One of the huge advantages to the sound and power of the concert instruments is the sheer length of the instrument. And I was, of course, purposely using the most extreme example the came quickly to mind. D vs. Winter spinet!

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And a 'B',
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#2029205 - 02/08/13 08:38 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Mark,

Now that I take offense too. My statement is not false in my case. I'll kindly ask you not to call me a liar. Personally, I do NOT say OH MY GOD!!! I hate that saying. I always have. It is used far to often. I say; "oh my gosh." Or, Geez, So do many others.

2ndly, I am not trying to offend you, I merely said it how I read it.

I think this is a good place to drop it now.
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#2029215 - 02/08/13 09:03 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Marc, if you tune electronically, there well be less difference, as the machine will compensate for you. If you tune by ear, you are in for a treat, especially if it's a nice D with lots of overtones. Have confidence, and treat the tuning as if you have tuned 100 of them before. At some point in your career, you will have tuned 100 of them, if you lean towards concert or university work. Don't over-think it. It's just another tuning. You will remember this tuning fondly years from now. You will do just fine.

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#2029219 - 02/08/13 09:13 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: TunerJeff]
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Originally Posted By: TunerJeff

a 9-ft does have significantly more tension overall. But that is because there are simply more strings in the piano! The triple-plain wire unisons extend much further down the scale. That's why concert grands can get up near 60-70,000 lbs. of tension. But the wire is NOT thicker or heavier for any given note. The opposite is true, sir. In fact, concert grands generally use a lighter wire than an upright or spinet for any given note; because they can use the LENGTH of the piano instead of the WEIGHT of a shorter thicker string.
,


Greetings,
I don't think additional tri-chords will require that much more tension, but I have a factory listing of tension in the Steinway pianos and it lists the D as having approx. 45,000 lbs. The D uses a 13 1/2 wire at the top, the S uses a 12 1/2.
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#2029232 - 02/08/13 10:19 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Boy, what a shame. This thread had the potential to get interesting. No one even had the chance to mention inharmonicity and how it relates to wire gauge.
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#2029249 - 02/08/13 11:12 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Not particularely more than a Yamaha , for what I know.

medium range iH, that may also mean medium range tension
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#2029257 - 02/08/13 11:27 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: kpembrook]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
Longer strings have higher tensions. Thicker strings have higher tensions. Longer pianos almost always have longer and thicker strings.


1st premise -- longer strings higher tension for a given pitch: Correct
2nd premise -- thicker strings higher tension for a given pitch: Correct.

Conclusion-- Longer pianos almost always have longer and thicker strings (and therefore have higher tension): Incorrect.

They may be longer but are not necessarily thicker. Bass strings on a 9' piano will always be significantly thinner than on a spinet. String lengths from c-52 up to c-88 on a 9' piano won't be much different from on a 45" upright.

There are 4 basic styles of stringing scales . . .
short scale/low tension
short scale/high tension
long scale/low tension
long scale high tension

Scaling style is not governed by the length of piano. For example, S&S "D" has a shorter scale (and lower tension) than the Kawai GS 100 scale which is a long scale/high tension scale. Both are 9' pianos, but that model of Kawai has a much higher tension scale.


A couple of comments: That longer pianos almost always have longer and thicker strings is not a conclusion. It is an observation.

There is an additional basic style of stringing scale, one which is very common:

Scale lengths designed with no regard for tensions, with varying tensions across the range of the piano.

In the other recently dredged up topic about scales, you can see my before and after charts of a piano designed with this stringing style, alongside my revised scale for the piano.
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#2029266 - 02/08/13 11:46 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Ed Foote]
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Originally Posted By: Ed Foote


Greetings,
I don't think additional tri-chords will require that much more tension, but I have a factory listing of tension in the Steinway pianos and it lists the D as having approx. 45,000 lbs. The D uses a 13 1/2 wire at the top, the S uses a 12 1/2.
Regards,


If I remember correctly, the D has a top C measuring less than 2". The S top C measures more than 2" or at least significantly more than the D.

Anomalous but interesting.
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#2029279 - 02/08/13 12:26 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: rxd]
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Originally Posted By: rxd
Originally Posted By: Ed Foote


Greetings,
I don't think additional tri-chords will require that much more tension, but I have a factory listing of tension in the Steinway pianos and it lists the D as having approx. 45,000 lbs. The D uses a 13 1/2 wire at the top, the S uses a 12 1/2.
Regards,


If I remember correctly, the D has a top C measuring less than 2". The S top C measures more than 2" or at least significantly more than the D.

Anomalous but interesting.


I am not certain whether those dimensions are correct, because there can easily be sample error in that range of the piano, but even if they are, the longer speaking length would call for a thinner gauge to maintain the same tension.
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#2029295 - 02/08/13 01:04 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
Originally Posted By: rxd
Originally Posted By: Ed Foote


Greetings,
I don't think additional tri-chords will require that much more tension, but I have a factory listing of tension in the Steinway pianos and it lists the D as having approx. 45,000 lbs. The D uses a 13 1/2 wire at the top, the S uses a 12 1/2.
Regards,


If I remember correctly, the D has a top C measuring less than 2". The S top C measures more than 2" or at least significantly more than the D.

Anomalous but interesting.


I am not certain whether those dimensions are correct, because there can easily be sample error in that range of the piano, but even if they are, the longer speaking length would call for a thinner gauge to maintain the same tension.


An that's precisely what Ed just got thru sayin'.

This was from a check of 4-5 new NY instruments 15 yrs ago. I have another 4-5 hamburg instruments I can check on the next couple o days.
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#2029304 - 02/08/13 01:18 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Now, I see some have offered disagreement to my statement that a Steinway D has a higher tension. Especially in the longer strings.

Before I plod through each and every comment about higher/lower/thicker/thinner

May I ask those who have so quickly commented to find the next Steinway D, B, L, M they find, take measurements and plug these measurements into the Scale sheets everyone seems to have and then come here with the facts.

I have a Steinway D, 2 Centennials, B, ,M, Style 3, 2 style 2's, 2 Mason A', a Steingraeber 212 Phoenix, Steingraeber 5'8", 2001 Bosendorfer Strauss etc, etc.... all tucked away while I move my shop around. At some point, I'll check again .. And post specifics ... why wait for me though ...
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#2029313 - 02/08/13 01:30 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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I would be happy to know, just the lenght and diameters of all the A's (or the C's) should say it all.

I am just referring to the book from Klaus Fenner that categorize 3 types of scales with low, medium and high iH

I just relate that to tension as such .

Please post some chart or data Larry, or BDB , who have it at hand.

Are the NY Steinway D's have the same scale than the Hamburg ones ?

I dont recall finding particularely thick strings in the high treble of D's or C, but if I did measur ethe whole scale I lost the files since then due to computer crash...

To measure with a metal ruler the top treble I was instructed to add 1 mm to me measure - that depending of the thickness of the ruler of course.


Edited by Olek (02/08/13 01:40 PM)
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#2029350 - 02/08/13 02:54 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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It is sort of a pain to post the Steinway gauges, but they are printed on the plates next to the tuning pins. They are also in their technical information. I do not have the speaking lengths for most of them, which is crucial, but I do not believe that there are any scales where a shorter piano has thicker plain strings than a longer piano.
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#2029377 - 02/08/13 03:54 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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So why do you pretend of knowing things by experience, if you don't have the speaking lenghts ? diameters are easy to find.
They dont mean much by themselves.


Edited by Olek (02/08/13 03:55 PM)
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#2029379 - 02/08/13 04:01 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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As a retired English professor, I would point out that abbreviating a phrase conventionally euphemises it--and thus removes any profanity. Also, while there are several synonyms for the phrase "lose one's virginity" that could qualify for the usage labels "vulgar" or "obscene," there is no coarseness in the phrase itself.

If the OP is offended, he can complain to the moderator.
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#2029393 - 02/08/13 04:31 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Anne'sson]
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Originally Posted By: Anne'sson
As a retired English professor, I would point out that abbreviating a phrase conventionally euphemises it--and thus removes any profanity. Also, while there are several synonyms for the phrase "lose one's virginity" that could qualify for the usage labels "vulgar" or "obscene," there is no coarseness in the phrase itself.


Greetings,
I agree, I was more offended by the use of the phrase "loosing" ones virginity. Though loose people may lose theirs more readily, that still isn't reason enough to misspell it.
Virginity means the same thing everywhere you apply it, virgin forests, virgin steel, even those vestal thingees. There is no need for people to get their brain caught in their zipper every time they hear the word.
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#2029397 - 02/08/13 04:40 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Ed, if we corrected spelling on lists, we'd never get anything else done!
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#2029400 - 02/08/13 04:48 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Olek]
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Are the NY Steinway D's have the same scale than the Hamburg ones ?
Yes. At least on paper laugh

The S scale is a bit of an anomaly - the speaking length is 54 mm. The other models are all 49 mm, except for the C and D which are 50 mm.
As I understand it, Steinway grands are in low tension scale area, except for the high tension models C and D. The S is a bit of a separate animal; some might say a nice piece of Steinway furniture.
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#2029402 - 02/08/13 04:55 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Supply]
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Originally Posted By: Olek
Are the NY Steinway D's have the same scale than the Hamburg ones ?
Yes. At least on paper laugh

The S scale is a bit of an anomaly - the speaking length is 54 mm. The other models are all 49 mm, except for the C and D which are 50 mm.
As I understand it, Steinway grands are in low tension scale area, except for the high tension models C and D. The S is a bit of a separate animal; some might say a nice piece of Steinway furniture.


Thank you Jurgen, any idea about Boesendorfer ?

54 mm in high treble is nice, usually !
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#2029403 - 02/08/13 04:56 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Supply]
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Originally Posted By: Supply
Originally Posted By: Olek
Are the NY Steinway D's have the same scale than the Hamburg ones ?
Yes. At least on paper laugh

The S scale is a bit of an anomaly - the speaking length is 54 mm. The other models are all 49 mm, except for the C and D which are 50 mm.
As I understand it, Steinway grands are in low tension scale area, except for the high tension models C and D. The S is a bit of a separate animal; some might say a nice piece of Steinway furniture.


I have heard that Jurgen. Interestingly, I rebuilt an S action a year ago with Steinway Parts. With thoughtful voicing, this S is truly a nice instrument.

I am keeping an open mind on this one.
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#2029406 - 02/08/13 04:59 PM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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that is there one need a very good bass string maker as there are the difficulties.



Edited by Olek (02/09/13 06:39 AM)
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#2029604 - 02/09/13 12:44 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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One can assume that the speaking lengths of longer pianos are not shorter than those of shorter pianos. It is sufficient to know that the speaking length is not longer and the gauge is thicker to know that the tension is higher.
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#2029786 - 02/09/13 09:45 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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You know, all of this talk about certain words being used including the word "virgin" reminded me of this. And, there is nothing wrong with the terminology in American English.

Did you know that we have Virgin Pine Tree's in Michigan? Yep, we have them! It is called Hartwick Pines which is about 30 miles from my cottage where we have lots of snow and Virgin Pine Trees. They are huge and they are beautiful! Look up Hartwick Pines sometime. I've been there many times. It's a great place to visit.
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#2029810 - 02/09/13 10:43 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Last year I tuned at a ranch where they produce extra virgin olive oil!
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#2029841 - 02/09/13 11:32 AM Re: Tuning of a Steinway, model D grand [Re: Mark Davis]
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Has anyone ever been to the V**g*n Islands? Do they have pianos there?
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