Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Let Your Piano Sing
Let Your Piano Sing
Piano Buyer Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyers Guide
Who's Online
115 registered (ajames, AndraK, alerique, ambrozy, 29 invisible), 1557 Guests and 8 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#2031063 - 02/11/13 10:49 AM Sight Transposition by Clef (and other methods)
anamnesis Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/17/11
Posts: 251
Loc: Alabama
Recently, I've gotten interested in learning how to transpose by sight. From what I've gathered, the most common methods have been to do by interval/position/ear.

One method that looks appealing to me is to change the clef:


It would basically involve learning 6 different grand staff positions and then juggling around the key signatures.

Has anyone trained themselves to do this before?
Obviously this would be a long term project, but not unfeasible.

What interval shifts are the most useful to learn or what are the easiest?

I was thinking of first learning the ones in which I already know at least half of the staff:

Up 3rd/Down 6th (Baritone - Bass GS)
Up 6th/Down 3rd (Treble - Soprano)

Being able going up and down a 3rd may also be the most useful when accompanying singers.

Next wold be these two since I would already know the Baritone and Soprano clefs:

Up 4th/Down 5th (Soprano - Mezzo Soprano)
Up 5/Down 4th (Tenor - Baritone)

Up 2nd/Down 7th (Mezzo Soprano - Alto Grand Staff)
Up 7th/Down 2nd (Alto - Tenor)

Edited by anamnesis (02/11/13 10:49 AM)

Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)
Piano accessories and music gift items
#2031649 - 02/12/13 05:47 AM Re: Sight Transposition by Clef (and other methods) [Re: anamnesis]
drumour Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/08/05
Posts: 872
Loc: Scotland
If you take octave transpositions as requiring negligible thought, then the only extra clefs you need to learn for score-reading orchestral music are: Soprano - A, Tenor - Bb, and Alto - violas (D in Baroque and Brahms, maybe). Bass clef will do for E and Eb leaving (horns in)F/cor anglais which is probably worth just practising as transposition. The idea is that you learn the clefs not work them out on the fly.

Vasa inania multum strepunt.


Moderator:  Brendan, Kreisler 
What's Hot!!
Some New Piano World STATS

Posting Pictures on the Forums
Forums Rules & Help
on Piano World

Piano Classified Ads
Piano Lamps
Piano Lamp by cocoweb - free shipping
New in Piano World's online store PianoSupplies.com, beautiful piano lamps from cocoweb. Free shipping! (continental U.S.).
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.

Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Louis Couperin
by Pianodao
10/27/16 11:32 AM
Parent issue
by chasingrainbows
10/27/16 11:27 AM
Erroll Garner plays "Misty"- new version
by rintincop
10/27/16 11:14 AM
Whats so special about Alfred Piano Course?
by Cutestpuppie
10/27/16 11:13 AM
Yale School of Music Audition: Bachelors
by I like Piano
10/27/16 09:07 AM
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Forum Stats
85,366 Registered Members
44 Forums
175,986 Topics
2,566,148 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |

copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission