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#2031929 - 02/12/13 03:39 PM
After Czerny Op.599
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Hi, I originally posted it in the adult beginner forum but I was adviced to ask here: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2031618.html#Post2031618Basically I finished the Czerny Op 599 and want to see which other Czerny studies should I continue to practice? I see it from Wiki that there's so many studies from Czerny and I guess there should be some overlap between them? And there should be some that is less important which can be skipped? Thanks!
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#2031955 - 02/12/13 04:13 PM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: kolen]
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What did your teacher recommend when you asked?
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#2031965 - 02/12/13 04:23 PM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: kolen]
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If you finished 599, you're good enough to play the sonatinas of Clementi (Op. 36) and Kuhlau (Op. 55). Those sonatinas are infinitely better and more musical than anything Czerny wrote. You will also enjoy the sonatinas of Lynes, Lichner, Gurlitt, and Kabalevsky. For etudes/studies, try Burgmuller Op. 100 or Kabalevsky Op. 28. These musical works will make your study of piano much more enjoyable.
Please note that my dislike of Czerny is not baseless. Robert Schumann also did not like Czerny's works.
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#2032017 - 02/12/13 05:43 PM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: AZNpiano]
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For etudes/studies, try Burgmuller Op. 100 or Kabalevsky Op. 28. These musical works will make your study of piano much more enjoyable. Not a teacher, just a n00b, but I wholeheartedly second that Burgmuller recommendation. I'm working my way through opus 100 myself, and it is definitely true that playing those pieces feels like making music, rather than practicing technique. This is one of the first things my teacher said to me after she gave me the Burgmuller book: they're pieces of music, rather than cut-and-dry exercises. And right then and there, I knew I had found a teacher who definitely knows what she is doing  .
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#2032769 - 02/13/13 11:00 PM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: John v.d.Brook]
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What did your teacher recommend when you asked? He should've posted it in this thread, but it's my understanding based on the other that he's been without a teacher for a few years.
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#2034604 - 02/17/13 05:54 AM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: kolen]
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Registered: 01/21/13
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Oh, yes. I am without a teacher since I left my home country.
And thanks for the suggestions. So no one is suggesting to use some of the Czerny's study?
I will take a look at those you mentioned especially those with an op. no.
Thanks!
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#2035088 - 02/18/13 02:12 AM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: AZNpiano]
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Registered: 11/26/07
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Loc: Europe
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Please note that my dislike of Czerny is not baseless. Robert Schumann also did not like Czerny's works. You can add me to the list of those who do not like Czerny's works! I do find that for every op he has (with 30, 40 and 50 etudes) I can find only a very few which are worth it. I can imagine him sitting the alphabet for half of his life and then playing games with it, but never writing a poem, or a story, or heck a fairy tale! :P
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#2035672 - 02/19/13 06:00 AM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: AZNpiano]
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Loc: Brunswick, VIC
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If you finished 599, you're good enough to play the sonatinas of Clementi (Op. 36) and Kuhlau (Op. 55). Those sonatinas are infinitely better and more musical than anything Czerny wrote. You will also enjoy the sonatinas of Lynes, Lichner, Gurlitt, and Kabalevsky. For etudes/studies, try Burgmuller Op. 100 or Kabalevsky Op. 28. These musical works will make your study of piano much more enjoyable.
Please note that my dislike of Czerny is not baseless. Robert Schumann also did not like Czerny's works. I wholeheartedly agree. Czerny is great, but in small doses. If you've already done quite a few of his studies, time to move on. AZN's suggestions are great.
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#2036794 - 02/21/13 07:13 AM
Re: After Czerny Op.599
[Re: kolen]
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