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#2033794 - 02/15/13 03:25 PM
Re: Interesting comment from Yoheved Kaplinsky
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I'd also say that, some pianists from the earlier part of the 20th century played quite closely to the style typical of today's performers, i.e. without the extreme rubato, arpeggiating of chords, and asynchronization of hands typical of some of the pianists in the earlier part of the 20th century. I'm thinking particularly of Rachmaninov Really? This dude? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3CHx3TDzwInteresting! I'm hearing arpeggiating of chords, asynchronization of hands and rather peculiar rubato all over the place!
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#2033837 - 02/15/13 04:55 PM
Re: Interesting comment from Yoheved Kaplinsky
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I'd also say that, some pianists from the earlier part of the 20th century played quite closely to the style typical of today's performers, i.e. without the extreme rubato, arpeggiating of chords, and asynchronization of hands typical of some of the pianists in the earlier part of the 20th century. I'm thinking particularly of Rachmaninov Really? This dude? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3CHx3TDzwInteresting! I'm hearing arpeggiating of chords, asynchronization of hands and rather peculiar rubato all over the place! I hear lots of arpeggiated chords, very slight asynchronization, and reasonable rubato much closer to rubato typical of modern pianists. I don't think he played nearly as much arpeggiated chords as in this Nocturne in much of his playing but it's possible. I reasonably certain that Rubinstein didn't arpeggiate and the same for Horowitz(although I have noticed some performances where he used asynchronization but still nowhere the level of a Paderewski). Here are a few Rachmaninov recordings I just listened to particularly for rolled chords, asynchronization, and extreme rubato. This famous Rachmaninov recording of Carnival seems to have virtually no arpgeggiation, asynchronization, or early style rubato: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkxwutQXxs0I only heard two rolled chords and no rubato or asynchronization in this performance of Bach transcribed by Rachmaninov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Firnn9Cfb3wI heard around two rolled chords, no asynchronization, and no extreme rubato in this performance of his Elegy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOp4TeG100No rolled chords, asynchronization, or extreme rubato in his performance of the Funeral March from Chopin's second Sonata: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbIBqTBM4Q
Edited by pianoloverus (02/15/13 06:20 PM)
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#2033841 - 02/15/13 05:02 PM
Re: Interesting comment from Yoheved Kaplinsky
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PL have you heard Rachmaninoff' s chopin second sonata?
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#2033850 - 02/15/13 05:21 PM
Re: Interesting comment from Yoheved Kaplinsky
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PL have you heard Rachmaninoff' s chopin second sonata? Yes, but I don't know if he played this in the old or modern style. I don't tend to notice that unless its extreme like Paderewski etc.
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#2033852 - 02/15/13 05:22 PM
Re: Interesting comment from Yoheved Kaplinsky
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PL have you heard Rachmaninoff' s chopin second sonata? That first movement is pretty wacky in the development, hahaha
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