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#2033441 - 02/14/13 11:13 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thre [Re: Mark_C]
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Some of his wording was also pretty funny (yet extremely vulgar). The guy was bored.

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#2033452 - 02/14/13 11:36 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thre [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
The guy was bored.

And probably sexually frustrated with the resultant need to play it all out on PW. He must have not got enough titillation on Facebook.
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#2033630 - 02/15/13 10:04 AM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
I'd say starting this thread is the equivalent of romper room. I think notifying the moderator if a thread is inappropriate is the by far the most reasonable thing to do. But starting a thread about the inappropriateness of another thread is silly. In fact, I can't remember this ever being done before.

But what's "inappropriate"? Most of us still don't even know what the "it" is, since access to the "it" has been denied.

My point is that any and every thread, no matter how trivial, frivolous, or inappropriate, should have its day. Let the market place determine whether it lives to see another day. Why must a handful of tattletales go running to the mods every time they sense impropriety, hence my reference to romper room. ("Miss Nancy, Miss Nancy, Johnny said a bad word!")

I've seen very serious, very "appropriate" threads that get one or two replies and simply drift to the bottom of the thread list. I can't explain why, but for whatever reason, the topic had no appeal.

Then we get a topic like "The piano and homosexuality", which could have been a model of "inappropriateness", and yet it's drawing a huge audience, both in terms of replies and views. Although it's meandered a bit (as all threads do), it's remained serious, thoughtful, and civil. Had the self-appointed censors run to the mods, it probably wouldn't have made it to page 2. Thanks to Kreisler's light hand, it's now approaching page 10. Rather than a model of "inappropriateness", it's become a model of a free-flowing and civil exchange of ideas. Isn't that what PW should be?

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#2033640 - 02/15/13 10:26 AM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Old Man]
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Originally Posted By: Old Man
Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
I'd say starting this thread is the equivalent of romper room. I think notifying the moderator if a thread is inappropriate is the by far the most reasonable thing to do. But starting a thread about the inappropriateness of another thread is silly. In fact, I can't remember this ever being done before.

But what's "inappropriate"? Most of us still don't even know what the "it" is, since access to the "it" has been denied.

My point is that any and every thread, no matter how trivial, frivolous, or inappropriate, should have its day. Let the market place determine whether it lives to see another day. Why must a handful of tattletales go running to the mods every time they sense impropriety, hence my reference to romper room. ("Miss Nancy, Miss Nancy, Johnny said a bad word!")
Well, that would mean PW is unmoderated unless one expects the moderator to read every thread. I guess that's a possibility but it would definitely change the tone of the site.

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#2033662 - 02/15/13 11:04 AM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Old Man]
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OldMan: Supposed "inappropriateness" of the other thread had nothing to do with this thread. The idea that it was about that was the imagination of the guy you're replying to.

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#2033675 - 02/15/13 11:29 AM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Mark_C]
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"... Had the self-appointed censors run to the mods, it probably wouldn't have made it to page 2..."

Oh, I think he has run to the mods... but they weren't having any.

Good point, about that mouse that won't select a different thread. Definitely needs a new mouse. "Miss Nancy, Miss Nancy---"

Guess I missed the 'excitement' of the crash-landing, but I thought that thread with the x-ray was kind of hilarious, if too-obviously fictitious--- anyway, I hope it was (who brings home his own x-ray?). All the street signs pointed to Divorce Court. Or maybe the writer was trying out a plot line for a daytime drama. Or maybe it was a husband's plot to save himself some money on Valentine's Day. So, what, did the x-ray turn into an ex-husband--- no, wait, it was the other guy that broke his foot--- do we know? I was waiting for the wife (or both wives) (or both wives and the piano teacher) to find out about the thread, and chime in with her own answer; I can well suppose it might have turned too blue for the front page of the forum.

Never mind--- I can wait until the interlocutory decree is granted, to find out... or even, forever.

The only person I remember having that much imagination for role-playing online was PianoMadam. No--- it couldn't be.
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#2033735 - 02/15/13 01:12 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
OldMan: Supposed "inappropriateness" of the other thread had nothing to do with this thread. The idea that it was about that was the imagination of the guy you're replying to.

Precisely. It wasn't clear that "the guy I'm replying to" had even seen the other thread, but it was clear that he was intent on bashing you for starting a "silly" thread. But whether the other thread was inappropriate, and this one silly, or vice versa, or both silly, is beside the point. PL has every right to describe this thread or any other thread exactly the way he sees it. But to suggest it might be "reasonable" to report your silliness to the mods, well, that's where I get off the boat. (Hmmm, bad metaphor given last night's Triumph.) crazy

My very favorite comic was the late, great George Carlin. So that tells you where my "inappropriateness" threshold is. laugh

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#2033746 - 02/15/13 01:37 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Well, that would mean PW is unmoderated unless one expects the moderator to read every thread. I guess that's a possibility but it would definitely change the tone of the site.

While I don't expect an unmoderated forum, I would certainly welcome it. Then again, I'm sure there are probably situations that I haven't considered that might give me pause, so I don't want to be absolutist about it.

But as a general principle, I do believe that as adults, we should be able to handle what comes our way. I have yet to encounter a thread that I thought should be closed, but I haven't read that many, so I'm open to examples. I respect your opinions, but I'm not enamored of a few individuals imposing their opinions on the rest of us by asking that a thread be closed. Call me crazy.

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#2033750 - 02/15/13 01:51 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Old Man]
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Just For The Fun of It
A place to post stuff that is just plain fun! Games Puzzles Quizes Polls Jokes (keep them clean)

There is a place for such threads. But even then the posts are expected to be "clean".
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#2033758 - 02/15/13 02:05 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Old Man]
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Originally Posted By: Old Man
PL has every right to describe this thread or any other thread exactly the way he sees it. But to suggest it might be "reasonable" to report your silliness to the mods, well, that's where I get off the boat.
That's not what I suggested. I suggested that reporting the thread(s) mentioned in the first post in this thread to the moderators would be reasonable.


Edited by pianoloverus (02/15/13 02:10 PM)

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#2033762 - 02/15/13 02:09 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Old Man]
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Originally Posted By: Old Man
Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Well, that would mean PW is unmoderated unless one expects the moderator to read every thread. I guess that's a possibility but it would definitely change the tone of the site.

While I don't expect an unmoderated forum, I would certainly welcome it. Then again, I'm sure there are probably situations that I haven't considered that might give me pause, so I don't want to be absolutist about it.

But as a general principle, I do believe that as adults, we should be able to handle what comes our way. I have yet to encounter a thread that I thought should be closed, but I haven't read that many, so I'm open to examples. I respect your opinions, but I'm not enamored of a few individuals imposing their opinions on the rest of us by asking that a thread be closed. Call me crazy.
Notifying a moderator about a thread doesn't mean the thread will be automatically closed so no one except moderators can impose their opinion. Kreisler only closes threads that get way out of hand or are entirely inappropriate for a forum that includes many teens.

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#2033763 - 02/15/13 02:15 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: Old Man]
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Originally Posted By: Old Man
....But to suggest it might be "reasonable" to report your [supposed] silliness to the mods....

[bracketed word added, for reasons obvious to all right-thinking people] ha

I didn't think he was talking about anyone reporting this thread, but that I should have rather (if anything) reported the other thread.

edit: I see that this is at least one thing he and I can agree on. ha

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....that's where I get off the boat. (Hmmm, bad metaphor given last night's Triumph.) crazy

The cruise ship thing (not meaning the recent disaster or disasters, but just the general phenomenon) is something I've never been able to relate to. Besides that it has no appeal for me whatsoever, I find the negatives overwhelming, especially that you're captive on the ship if anything should happen, which is exactly the factor that has made the disasters be so disastrous. And I find it extra-hard to understand that the one-after-another disasters don't seem to make a dent in that market.

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My very favorite comic was the late, great George Carlin. So that tells you where my "inappropriateness" threshold is. laugh

One of my old faves too, going back to when his main thing was the "hippy-dippy weatherman" which in later years he said he thought was totally nothing and he didn't understand that it was such a success.

Later on, long after I knew of the arrest for the "7 Words...." I was surprised to learn that it happened exactly where I was living at the time (Milwaukee) and at a festival that I attended for several days' worth. I guess I was too busy with the classical music stuff there, which was wonderful: Piano recitals by my then coach (and friend), and a Mozart opera, both of which I attended a few times.

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#2033782 - 02/15/13 02:58 PM Re: As a public service, I alert PC to this Piano Forum thread:) [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: Old Man
PL has every right to describe this thread or any other thread exactly the way he sees it. But to suggest it might be "reasonable" to report your silliness to the mods, well, that's where I get off the boat.
That's not what I suggested. I suggested that reporting the thread(s) mentioned in the first post in this thread to the moderators would be reasonable.

Well, in that case..... never mind. I clearly misunderstood you and I apologize.

But I still believe it would have been unreasonable for Mark to report that OTHER thread. You know, the imaginary one that only Mark can see. confused

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