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#2033919 - 02/15/13 07:37 PM Recommended tuning app
royjohn Offline
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Registered: 11/08/10
Posts: 4
Loc: 226
Well, I finally got a Samsung Galaxy III phone after my ancient phone died. I'd like to replace my Conn Strobotuner with an app for the phone that works as well or better and have no idea what would work. Any advice appreciated. Interested in tuning my piano in equal, but would like circulating temperaments for tuning experiments later, on digitals or harpsichords . . .
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#2033922 - 02/15/13 07:43 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
BoseEric Offline
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I use the Rayburn cybertuner, and I have heard very good things about TuneLab
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#2033933 - 02/15/13 07:55 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
JackH Offline
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Registered: 09/29/07
Posts: 33
Loc: Vancouver, British Columbia
I have Tunelab and Verituner apps on my iPhone. They both work fine
but I use the Verituner the most. I also bought the iPad mini which fits in my pocket.
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#2033935 - 02/15/13 07:58 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
BoseEric Offline
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Anything will be better then the Conn
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#2033949 - 02/15/13 08:43 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
pianotune2 Offline
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I agree with the sentiment that anything would be better then the Conn. You might try the Tunelab free version to see what you think.
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#2033953 - 02/15/13 08:49 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
beethoven986 Offline
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Verituner, but it is for Apple products only. I have an Android phone, but it was worth getting an iPod Touch to use as as a dedicated ETD (with Verituner).
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#2033957 - 02/15/13 09:00 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
showard Offline
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I have been using Tunelab for several years. I started using it on my PDA and a couple of years ago I got an Ipad and have been using it with the Ipad since then. It's a good ETD for the price. It is nice that they have free version you can try before deciding to buy, though I think the free version can only be used on a laptop.
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#2033963 - 02/15/13 09:23 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
royjohn Offline
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Thanks for the prompt replies. The Reyburn is only for iPhone, AFAIK. The tunelab for android is $300 and the Verituner is $895. I think I'll forego using my Android and go with Tunelab 97 on my laptop, which will have (more or less, I guess) the same features, for free.

Pardon my editorializing, but I think this is a good example of price point restricting use to professionals. If one of these software packages were $100 to $150, I might consider purchase, but, for occasional use, when free products of similar accuracy are available, I'm not going $300. Do you want to sell 100 @ $300 or 500 @ $80?

Thanks for your help!
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#2033967 - 02/15/13 09:48 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
BoseEric Offline
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price is rarely the only consideration
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#2034178 - 02/16/13 09:35 AM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
David Jenson Offline
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Registered: 10/22/06
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Loc: Maine
The price of ETD software is another argument in favor of learning aural tuning.
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#2034237 - 02/16/13 11:51 AM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: showard]
AndyJ Offline
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Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 218
Loc: Near Dayton, Ohio USA
Originally Posted By: showard
I have been using Tunelab for several years. I started using it on my PDA and a couple of years ago I got an Ipad and have been using it with the Ipad since then. It's a good ETD for the price. It is nice that they have free version you can try before deciding to buy, though I think the free version can only be used on a laptop.

The free Android version works exactly like the paid one with one exception: it imposes a two-minute delay after every 14th change in notes. I completed my first tuning with the free version over the course of four or five hours.

I recommend trying the free version of Tunelab. Be sure to read the whole manual. Two techniques will minimize the delays: 1) disable autotune and learn where the touch-sensitive display areas are so you don't change notes more often than necessary, and 2) leave the phone alone when it enters its delay phases.

The second point is critical because Tunelab only counts time when its delay screen is visible against the two-minute delay.

I wish I'd bought the app before I started my tuning instead of right afterwards!

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#2034318 - 02/16/13 03:52 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
That Guy Offline
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Registered: 10/07/11
Posts: 390
Loc: Lincoln, NE
You may have discovered this already but if you're running Android the only option you have is TuneLab. I think it's the only piano tuning software for Android. Like others have said you can download the demo version and try it out. It is different that the Pocket PC version or laptop version. I think it's better. Robert Scott (the inventor) tells me it can measure every note on the piano if you wanted to. The other versions only allow 6 I think except for the iPhone version. And, of course, compared to the other apps TuneLab is a bargain!
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#2035025 - 02/17/13 10:47 PM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
Cy Shuster, RPT Offline
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Registered: 12/18/05
Posts: 3448
Loc: Albuquerque, NM
There's a world of difference between TuneLab '97 and the current version! (Gosh, that's 16 years, now!). I strongly encourage you to try the Android version, to get an accurate assessment of what it can do.

TuneLab was the first ETD I tried (because it had a trial version), and I've stuck with it after trying Cybertuner and Verituner because I like the user interface, it's rock-solid, and the pitch raises are very powerful (80-cent raise taking everything to within three cents in one pass!). The low price is just gravy!

Yes, $300 is a lot of money, but remember how many years you'll use this tool. You will greatly improve your results over the Conn.

While the Conn has a handful of tuning choices, TuneLab lets you create a unique tuning for each piano. The result is like getting custom-tailored clothing, compared to buying a standardized size item off the rack.

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#2035169 - 02/18/13 09:24 AM Re: Recommended tuning app [Re: royjohn]
RonTuner Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 1618
Loc: Chicagoland
The variety of electronic tuning programs differ in the ability to custom shape the tuning calculation to match the piano. The conn, as well as the basic chromatic tuner apps offer no customizing, or possibly a few template stretches that might or might not fit an individual piano...

The piano-specific programs that measure a variety of strings and then generate a smooth curve tuning calculation representing the offsets of a single partial for different areas of the piano do a much better job at customizing than the template tuning systems. (SAT, RCT and Tunelab)

Verituner takes the customizing another step and has the measurements of the strings from A0-C7 directly influence the octave matching across the keyboard- either in the default settings or the user-based controls, resulting in a calculation that better matches the individual piano. The effect is either striking, subtle, or un-noticed depending a variety of factors influencing each person musical perception...


Edited by RonTuner (02/18/13 09:25 AM)
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