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#2035384 - 02/18/13 05:14 PM having trouble singing while playing/damien rice - 9 crime
ruther Offline
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Registered: 12/21/12
Posts: 2
Hi everybody!

So I've been playing since christmas and been making decent progress with the Fundamental Keys book which I found because of this forum.

Although it's a great course I kind of want to try my hand at singing while playing, so I decided to start with 9 Crimes by Damien Rice (click)

As you can hear the piano part is pretty simple - however I'm having trouble syncing my singing to the rhythm of the melody because the singing seems to start on the second count.
I tried playing really slowly but this makes it even more confusing smirk

I'd be really glad if you guys could give me some advice on what to do to solve this problem smile

(sorry english is not my first language)

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#2035411 - 02/18/13 05:54 PM Re: having trouble singing while playing/damien rice - 9 crime [Re: ruther]
Mark... Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
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One of my favorite Rice songs. I can't sing a lick, but great choice on the music...

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#2035646 - 02/19/13 02:51 AM Re: having trouble singing while playing/damien rice - 9 crime [Re: ruther]
Charles Cohen Offline
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Registered: 12/26/12
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Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
You have a good ear -- the singing starts on the second note in a 4-note "broken chord" (arpeggio).

Two suggestions:

1. Use a metronome that goes "ting tick tick tick" to steady your piano playing. Start singing on the "tick".

2. Record the piano part, and learn to sing along with the recording. That will "teach" your brain when to start singing, within the piano part. When you can do that, try to play and sing at the same time.

Singing and playing, at the same time, is not easy. It is very difficult to sing and play _together_, until you have mastered the playing, and singing, _separately_. When you can play the piano part without thinking, you will have some brain-power to concentrate on the singing.

You must develop a "feel" for the rhythm, and that takes time and experience.

. Charles

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#2035723 - 02/19/13 08:53 AM Re: having trouble singing while playing/damien rice - 9 crime [Re: Charles Cohen]
ruther Offline
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Registered: 12/21/12
Posts: 2
Originally Posted By: Mark...
One of my favorite Rice songs. I can't sing a lick, but great choice on the music...

You sir, have great taste.
I'm an awful singer as well, but that shouldn't stop you smile

Originally Posted By: Charles Cohen

Two suggestions:

1. Use a metronome that goes "ting tick tick tick" to steady your piano playing. Start singing on the "tick".

2. Record the piano part, and learn to sing along with the recording. That will "teach" your brain when to start singing, within the piano part. When you can do that, try to play and sing at the same time.

Thank you! That is great advice. I'll start out with recording the piano part with a metronome and try to sing to that. smile

Thank you!

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